Longer than 30s ?

[mart46]

Is it possible with the X-T1 to shoot longer than 30s other than using a cable release? Thanks

[Watcher24]

I guess B (bulb) should allow that.
With T it's not possible.

[kin2son]

Bulb mode?

[FearTheXNoob]

It's possible using bulb mode (the camera exposes as long as you press the trigger). That has drawbacks of course (camera shake) so a cable release might be recommended. As far as I know the remote control app does not yet allow you to do bulb.

[Dis]

Is it possible with the X-T1 to shoot longer than 30s other than using a cable release? Thanks

It looks like not. You can get third party wireless cable release but in the end it works via the same micro-usb or 2.5 audio jack sockets.

[Watcher24]

... As far as I know the remote control app does not yet allow you to do bulb.

 That's true.

[mart46]

It looks like not. You can get third party wireless cable release but in the end it works via the same micro-usb or 2.5 audio jack sockets.

 

Thanks for the info - any names for the 3rd party cable release?

[Dis]

Thanks for the info - any names for the 3rd party cable release?

http://www.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-camera-remote-shutter-releases-1046267/4

Here is a review. It's detailed but too old. Just as a starting point.

[darknj]

From a post I recall on DPReview, it seems that the Yongnuo 2.5mm to 2.5mm Canon compatible cable is working with our X-T1.

Do take that with some grain of salt as memory could be failing me on the finer details.

[jeremyclarke]

Just want to flag this as WTF! I love astro but my widest lens was 18mm and I never tried to get star trails before so I never bumped up against this limit. Now that I have the 16mm and tried to show some friends what star trails look like I was really dissapointed. 

 

Would REALLY like Fuji to fix this and offer a way to force ultra-long exposures. 

 

The Fuji App didn't even seem to have a way of setting the shutter speed at all when I tried it. Anyone else have that experience? I could only really edit ISO.

[azmmount]

Just got this one from Ebay - only $9.99 and seems to work.

 

I like the wireless ones but usually am standing right beside the camera when I trip the shutter anyway. I figured if I need distance I'll just use the remote app.

 

Mike

[Dis]

The Fuji App didn't even seem to have a way of setting the shutter speed at all when I tried it. Anyone else have that experience? I could only really edit ISO.

The problem is fuji app cannot change the exposure mode. In order to be able to change SS or aperture via the app, these parameters have to be set off auto values. In other words switch the camera to manual mode. This has to be done before connecting the camera to the app as the camera don't react to any on-camera button while it's connected to the app.

[zenmartini]

http://www.triggertrap.com

 

This is what I've been using. I got mine from England but now is available at B&H. Great company. Had a slight issue and the CS was very good.

[Trenton Talbot]

Any C1 (Canon thin jack) timer remote will do the trick. I use this one.

[jeremyclarke]

I guess a custom trigger is the only option for > 30s  

 

Bummer because I already have my YongNuo triggers I got for remote flash but which also work great as shutter releases because they plug into the audio jack and act as either a wired (one trigger) or wireless (two triggers) system. It's just a "shutter button" on the trigger though, so they can't give me options the camera doesn't support natively

 

WRT the app, I figured out the crazy behavior Dis tried to describe earlier. Essentially the app functions in a P/A/S/M mentality, where it reads the camera's settings (i.e. which dials are set to "A") and gives you controls based on that. If you set the shutter dial to "T" and turn on the app you will have control over the time inside the app. The problem is that once the app is open there's NO WAY to switch modes, so you are stuck with only the setting you started with and changing requires completely redoing the whole connection process. 

 

So if you want to do long exposures with the app:

• Make sure you have the aperture set to what you want
• Make sure the shutter dial is set to "T"
• Connect the app (if you can make that work OMG just testing this is driving me crazy!)
• Give up
• Buy a cheap remote release
• Curse the app developers at Fuji, but know that every other camera company's app is also garbage

[jlmphotos]

YEs.  In "B" mode.  My remote which plugs in to the camera has a "lock" feature.  I've kept it open for minutes on end.

[Antony]

Just want to flag this as WTF!

 

Would REALLY like Fuji to fix this and offer a way to force ultra-long exposures.

 

 

Not sure of any pro DSLRs that offer timed exposures longer than 30 secs. Investment of a few dollars for a cable release seems a minor inconvenience.

[jeremyclarke]

Not sure of any pro DSLRs that offer timed exposures longer than 30 secs. 

 

Still want the feature, along with touchscreen AF point selection, preview-as-you-go bulb mode and in-camera usb battery charging which also aren't offered in "pro DSLRs". If there as some limitation to length then bulb mode would cap out at 30s too. Seems they are limiting the UI for no good reason, so why not let us access higher numbers?

 

Paying for a timer isn't too bad, but carrying it around just in case is annoying and none of the ones recommended here are particularly cheap or disposable. Using the app is such a logical solution for "remote release" situations, if they just increased the maximum length it would solve this problem on it's own. 

[Scott Grant]

Still want the feature, along with touchscreen AF point selection, preview-as-you-go bulb mode and in-camera usb battery charging which also aren't offered in "pro DSLRs". If there as some limitation to length then bulb mode would cap out at 30s too. Seems they are limiting the UI for no good reason, so why not let us access higher numbers?

 

Paying for a timer isn't too bad, but carrying it around just in case is annoying and none of the ones recommended here are particularly cheap or disposable. Using the app is such a logical solution for "remote release" situations, if they just increased the maximum length it would solve this problem on it's own. 

$9.99 is't what you would call "particularly cheap"?    Also, in blub mode the camera shows an exposure timer on the LCD or EVF.

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/765659-REG/Vello_RS_C1II_RS_C1II_Wired_Remote_Switch.html

[CRAusmus]

Still want the feature, along with touchscreen AF point selection, preview-as-you-go bulb mode and in-camera usb battery charging which also aren't offered in "pro DSLRs". If there as some limitation to length then bulb mode would cap out at 30s too. Seems they are limiting the UI for no good reason, so why not let us access higher numbers?

 

Paying for a timer isn't too bad, but carrying it around just in case is annoying and none of the ones recommended here are particularly cheap or disposable. Using the app is such a logical solution for "remote release" situations, if they just increased the maximum length it would solve this problem on it's own. 

Remotes are cheap and if you're that worried about not being prepared to take a long exposure, how the hell do you intend to keep the camera steady?

 

I think some of their point and shoots have touch screen focus points.  That's what those are for.

 

You can't use the app for bulb exposure because you can't rely on the wifi connection.  How many exposures have you done since owning any camera that are longer than 30 seconds anyway?  Got examples of this work you do so much of?

[jeremyclarke]

$9.99 is't what you would call "particularly cheap"?   

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/765659-REG/Vello_RS_C1II_RS_C1II_Wired_Remote_Switch.html

 

Did someone recommend that? I said ones that were recommended here. Do you own it and find it works well?

 

Seems like most people want something intelligent for this task, which that one doesn't seem to be and which makes the recommended products expensive. If the camera did it then we'd have all the display+computing power we paid for on the job. 

 

What is your reason for wanting the camera to not offer 30+ second exposures?

 

 

 Also, in blub mode the camera shows an exposure timer on the LCD or EVF.

 

Sounds like you're referring to my "preview-as-you-go bulb mode" comment, by which I meant the Olympus feature where the image develops on screen as time passes, so you can judge for yourself when it's bright enough and let go.

 

Obviously this is in a whole other league from just allowing 30+ second exposures with "T" mode, but it's an example of a great, useful feature that CaNikon never bothered to implement either. 

[jeremyclarke]

Remotes are cheap and if you're that worried about not being prepared to take a long exposure, how the hell do you intend to keep the camera steady?

 

The fact that I'd also need a tripod in most cases doesn't invalidate my argument, but you're right that almost any long exposure photography is going to require thoughtful packing anyway, so incorporating a timer isn't the end of the world. It's still another thing to worry about though, and there's no good reason why we should have to, if the software just let us do what we need there would be no problem. 

 

 

I think some of their point and shoots have touch screen focus points.  That's what those are for.

 

Completely unhelpful comment, but useful in that I can now safely assume your reactions come from a place of arrogance. I use Fuji X cameras because I like direct physical controls, not because I want a hard to use camera. 

 

 

You can't use the app for bulb exposure because you can't rely on the wifi connection.  How many exposures have you done since owning any camera that are longer than 30 seconds anyway?  Got examples of this work you do so much of?

 

When has the wifi failed you within the span of an exposure? The camera and phone are right next to each other, and should work fine. There are myriad problems with the app, but that's not even one that I ever had (once I was connected and taking the shots I wanted). If it WAS a problem then they should FIX THAT ALSO

 

About my body of >30s photography: I have an X-T10 and the remote triggers I already own (and use for various tasks) can't help me take a shot longer than 30s, so how do you expect me to have done so?

 

I wanted to experiment with ultra long exposures and star trails and discovered that, for no apparent reason, I needed to buy something in order to proceed. I'll probably just get a timer at some point, but I shouldn't be blocked from experimenting if the camera is capable of doing it on it's own. 

[CRAusmus]

When did we get so lazy?  Damn.  I remember when you had to hold in a button on the end of a long braided metal cord and have a stop watch or count it off.

 

All of this complaining is getting to the point of utter ridiculousness.  Next you'll want a pop out tripod on the bottom of the camera, or an attached remote to the body that you can simply always have with you.  Then you'll aways be prepared to be a lazy photographer.  Seriously is it too hard to hold a button down?

 

I've never taken a 2 hour long exposure using a constant wifi connection, so I couldn't say, but I can certainly see how this would create a whole slew of issues.

 

You can go experiment now, there have been multiple posts of remote releases that will work.  That all of us are using to "experiment" with now.  Sorry you bought the wrong triggers and now it's Fuji's fault that you can't do longer than 30 second exposures.  Hell I just bought one from B&H for 8 damn dollars? You have a  thousand dollars in camera equipment and 8 bucks is too much to spend on a damn trigger?  It even comes with a lock so I won't have to hold it down for 2 hours.  That's just ludicrous.

 

 

Fuji...Please don't clutter our cameras with a bunch of crap...please... 

[jeremyclarke]

When did we get so spiteful and bitter about simple feature requests? Sorry if I'm not being polite, I'm trying. Your response is really defensive though, and I don't think your feelings are really about this issue but about general trends in photography. You can call it "lazy" if you want, but I don't consider it laziness to want Fuji to make my camera more capable, I consider it sensible. 

 

I'm not saying it's the end of the world, I'm saying it seems like an easy to implement improvement that would remove the need for a whole genre of cheap add-ons that degrade my Fuji experience. 

 

What damage would it do for "T" mode to let me pick any number of seconds rather than just up to 30?

 

How is that comparable to wanting a built in tripod or built in remote? I'm just asking for a tweak to the software they could do via firmware update.

[CRAusmus]

When did we get so spiteful and bitter about simple feature requests? Sorry if I'm not being polite, I'm trying. Your response is really defensive though, and I don't think your feelings are really about this issue but about general trends in photography. You can call it "lazy" if you want, but I don't consider it laziness to want Fuji to make my camera more capable, I consider it sensible. 

 

I'm not saying it's the end of the world, I'm saying it seems like an easy to implement improvement that would remove the need for a whole genre of cheap add-ons that degrade my Fuji experience. 

 

What damage would it do for "T" mode to let me pick any number of seconds rather than just up to 30?

 

How is that comparable to wanting a built in tripod or built in remote? I'm just asking for a tweak to the software they could do via firmware update.

The point is dude...Where does it end.  If they gave you your very own special setting so that you could do a two hour exposure a few times a year, there'd be something else to complain about after that.

 

All through out this forum are members complaining and pining over features they think Fuji should implement in their next design...

 

You've got the members who swear IBIS will make the whole system better.  Those that won't even consider buying the next model unless it's at least 24 mega pixels.  Those that want special firmware updates for their special exposures.  Those that want to be able to alter ever single aspect of the EVF, just in case there happens to be a black curtain somewhere in the room.  Those that want a portable clean room for changing lenses.  Those that want Fuji to implement 4k video for that wedding they might have potentially gotten last season if they also did video as well.  Those that want every lens that has been made since the 90 to be remade with better engines, oh and we want it fast, but we also want it pancake because once we have IBIS, 24 mega pixel sensors and 4k our bodies are going to be freaking huge all over again.  Oh yeah and while we're doing all this Fuji, do something about the piss poor battery life so I don't have to carry around 3 batteries while I shoot my video, try to hand hold seconds long exposures because I don't want to have to buy a tripod, and damn, the processor needs be faster because I can't raddle off 30 frames a freaking second.  We also need in camera copy right because I forgot to set that up when I import in LR.  I also need better high ISO jpeg performance because it's too hard to change my camera profile when I import in LR (yes I know it's just one drop down menu, but for crying out loud it's way at the bottom of the develop module).

 

It's not defensive, it's being tired of all the whining.  And yes...I'm exaggerating with all the above.

 

In all honesty, the X-T1 is pretty freaking close to perfect.  If they'd just continue to make good glass, increase the processing power and implement better exposure bracketing in the X-T2 it'd be a worthy upgrade.

 

 

Not attaching anyone personally, just venting.  It's not about you (whoever is reading this)...I promise.