60 f/2.4 or wait for new 50 f/2

[Hermelin]

I got the X-Pro1 now but I am waiting for the X-T2 to get released.

Thinking of getting the 60 f/2.4 but I'm a bit worried about the slow AF I've been reading about.

I do want to be able to take some shots of my 4 year old running around in continues af.

 

How fast is the 60 f/2.4 focus on the X-PRO2? I Guess that can give a hint on how fast it will focus (the least) on the new X-T2.

There's also the new 50 f/2 on the horizon, which I guess will not be more expensive than the 60. DOF will probably be about the same and I expect the AF speed might be faster.

 

The 56 f/1.2 is out of my budget.

 

[Sluw]

I got the X-Pro1 now but I am waiting for the X-T2 to get released.

Thinking of getting the 60 f/2.4 but I'm a bit worried about the slow AF I've been reading about.

I do want to be able to take some shots of my 4 year old running around in continues af.

 

How fast is the 60 f/2.4 focus on the X-PRO2? I Guess that can give a hint on how fast it will focus (the least) on the new X-T2.

There's also the new 50 f/2 on the horizon, which I guess will not be more expensive than the 60. DOF will probably be about the same and I expect the AF speed might be faster.

 

The 56 f/1.2 is out of my budget.

 

It's definitely faster than on the x-pro1 but not "kids running around fast". What other lens(es) do you have? For example the 18-55 should do on the x-t2.

[Immanuel]

Do you want the lens now, or do you want to wait till some time next year?

[Aswald]

50 F2.

 

The 60 F2.4 is too slow to chase kids with.

[ketsang]

18-55 would be great for kid running around as not only you have to focus fast, you may want to zoom in and out quickly to reframe.

If you are after primes,  I use my 35/2 a lot for my 2 years old. It works well.

[Max_Elmar]

When you read about the 60mm, (one of the first 3 Fuji XF lenses) just remember that a lot of those reviews were written using an original X-Pro1 with 1.0 firmware. Many generations of "Kaizen" down the line - the 60mm is not nearly as bad as some of those early reviews suggest. That said, in the Fuji line up the LM lenses are the fastest focusers. Those linear motors are equivalent to AF-S in Nikon speak, or true (ring) USM in Canon parlance. Thus, it's really hard to beat the 18-55 as an all-around snapshot lens....

[Tikcus]

I'll put the lens on my x-t10, pu it into CAF and see how it does tomorrow.

 

I don't find it slow, but admittedly I normally only use it for portrait work

[Hermelin]

I already have the 18 f/2 which would kinda make it obsolete with the 18-55. Guess I have to sell it.

[jlmphotos]

You will not be happy photographing ANYTHING that moves with a 60mm

[jlmphotos]

I already have the 18 f/2 which would kinda make it obsolete with the 18-55. Guess I have to sell it.

I would sell the 18, and KEEP the 18-55.  The zoom is SO MUCH better and sharper, and much more versatile than the 18.  That is my "don't leave home without" lens.  I love my 18-55...

[johant]

I would sell the 18, and KEEP the 18-55. The zoom is SO MUCH better and sharper, and much more versatile than the 18. That is my "don't leave home without" lens. I love my 18-55...

Especially with an X-Pro camera, there are distinct advantages to the 18mm. Besides, it renders differently than the 18-55, so the two lenses are not exchangeable for me.

[Tikcus]

I'll put the lens on my x-t10, pu it into CAF and see how it does tomorrow.

 

I don't find it slow, but admittedly I normally only use it for portrait work

 

Did a quick test of someone walking across the garden, keeping the person in the PDAF area of the X-T10 it nailed the focus on the person 16 times out of 18 shots

camera settings

 

F/8, 1/180, ISO 200

AF Mode ZONE & C

Raw only

I was moving the camera with the target so they stayed in the PDAF area.

camera in CH mode

Using the Wide/Tracking AF mode the hit rate was not as good, but the tracking still worked with the X-T10 and XF60

 

However I can't test this on a faster moving unpredictable target (also the field of view from the 60mm may not be wide enough, only you can answer that question)

Edited July 21, 2016 by Tikcus

[Hermelin]

Especially with an X-Pro camera, there are distinct advantages to the 18mm. Besides, it renders differently than the 18-55, so the two lenses are not exchangeable for me.

You have a point there .The 18 has wider aperture, is more compact and discreet (which I value a lot) but has better macro capabilities.

The 18-55 seems great and I want it but I don't think I can justify having both lenses though. I never had more than 3 lenses which usual enough for the kind of stuff I shot (

I have my 18 f/2 out now for sell but haven't had much feedback (I live in sweden).

[Hermelin]

Did a quick test of someone walking across the garden, keeping the person in the PDAF area of the X-T10 it nailed the focus on the person 16 times out of 18 shots

camera settings

 

F/8, 1/180, ISO 200

AF Mode ZONE & C

Raw only

I was moving the camera with the target so they stayed in the PDAF area.

camera in CH mode

Using the Wide/Tracking AF mode the hit rate was not as good, but the tracking still worked with the X-T10 and XF60

 

However I can't test this on a faster moving unpredictable target (also the field of view from the 60mm may not be wide enough, only you can answer that question)

Thanks for testing

[Hermelin]

Really enjoy my 18 f/2. Went out for birthday dinner with my wife tonight and brought my x-pro1 + 18 f/2, and the small size really makes a difference. It doesn't bring any attention and it's a good focal lenght for indoors and produce beautiful images (both sooc, shot at f/2). Not sure if I would've brought the cam if I only had the 18-55 instead.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 24, 2016 by Hermelin

[Michael McKee]

I'm with the folks who are for keeping the 18-55. It's sharper than the 18mm. You only lose one stop with the 18-55, which is very seldom a problem. 

 

The 60mm is slow to focus, especially on running subjects. That includes the new bodies. It's a decent closeup lens until the 80mm macro comes out. It's also a very good portrait lens

[gordonrussell76]

Basically I would say wait until the 50mm not becuase its better, I have no idea what that lens will be like. But because you cannot possibly know at this point so whats the point in trying to second guess. Wait and then if you don't like the 50 you will probably be able to pick up a 60mm sh very very cheaply as there will be a glut of them when everyone sells them to buy the latest and greatest.

 

G

[Hermelin]

Well I ended up finally selling the 18 f/2 and got the 35 f/2. I will get the 18-55 with the x-t2 once released. Figure I use the zoom as a travel lens and maybe even capture "action shots" of my kid running and so on. The 35 is my low light lens and also suitable for candid shots.

 

Now I'm starting to lean towards the 60 again as I'm thinking the 50 f/2 will be too close in focal length to the 35 and also when I already have the 18-55 it feels a bit unnecessary. The 60 is a tad longer and has macro which will make it more different than the 50 compared to the 18-55 and 35.

 

Does this make sense? ☺

[mdm]

Does this make sense? ☺

 

If you are not going to shoot "action" with 60mm, this lens rewards you with outstanding images. 50f2 looks too short but until we will see how it performs all speculations are premature.

[gordonrussell76]

The other option now would be the 90mm which is one of the fastest AF lens in the lineup has amazing close focus which combined with its focal length makes it pseudo macro and if you pair it with an extension tube even better. It would complement the 18-55mm and 35mm better and its IQ is second to none in the system.

[Hermelin]

The other option now would be the 90mm which is one of the fastest AF lens in the lineup has amazing close focus which combined with its focal length makes it pseudo macro and if you pair it with an extension tube even better. It would complement the 18-55mm and 35mm better and its IQ is second to none in the system.

Way too big of a lens. I would rather go for the 56 in that case

[Nero]

I know that you're saying the 90mm is too large, but I would at least consider the 55-200mm. It's about 0.5" longer than the 90mm, but it is very versatile and has excellent image quality. The versatility of the zoom might offset some of your concerns about the size. It complements the 18-55 perfectly. Extremely sharp edge to edge. Cheap compared to other lenses, especially if you can find a good used copy. The bokeh may not be as good as the 56mm, but it's very respectable. 

[Lupus]

First post here.   

I used to own the XF 56mm but since I used it so little I decided to sell it (which I now regret). But anyways I bought the 60mm f/2.4,since I got it for about 300€ as a new. And it really surprised me how good it is (see samples below). The AF in good lighting is more than useful. I find it even faster than 56mm. Of course in low lighting it begans to hunt like a maniac. But at the moment it's my go-to lens when I'm going outdoors with my kids. The close-up "macro" capability is a really fun addition. And it's incredibly sharp (just like any other Fuji lens) wide open and has a really gorgeous OOF rendering. It's also a really light-weight, making it a great combo with my X-T1 as well as the X-T10.

I also have the 35mm f/2 and because it's so darn good I'm eager to see how good the 23mm f/2 and 50mm f/2 will be. If they're just as good as the 35mm, I might have to get them both. But in any case, I am not going to sell my 60mm. The macro is just too fun thing to lose and being a combination of a macro/portrait lens is really useful.

[Hermelin]

First post here.   

 

I used to own the XF 56mm but since I used it so little I decided to sell it (which I now regret). But anyways I bought the 60mm f/2.4,since I got it for about 300€ as a new. And it really surprised me how good it is (see samples below). The AF in good lighting is more than useful. I find it even faster than 56mm. Of course in low lighting it begans to hunt like a maniac. But at the moment it's my go-to lens when I'm going outdoors with my kids. The close-up "macro" capability is a really fun addition. And it's incredibly sharp (just like any other Fuji lens) wide open and has a really gorgeous OOF rendering. It's also a really light-weight, making it a great combo with my X-T1 as well as the X-T10.

 

I also have the 35mm f/2 and because it's so darn good I'm eager to see how good the 23mm f/2 and 50mm f/2 will be. If they're just as good as the 35mm, I might have to get them both. But in any case, I am not going to sell my 60mm. The macro is just too fun thing to lose and being a combination of a macro/portrait lens is really useful.

 

 

Nice shots. Surprised that you find it focus faster than the 56 as everyone claims its so slow. I can live with af hunting in bad light (might just use the 35 in bad light anyway).

[frod]

The 56 trumps it in any light, assuming you're on the same camera and firmware version; the 56mm cannot transform an xe1 into an xt1.