Buying Camera this week. FUJI XPRO 2 vs. X100T vs. XT1 . Please help

[frod]

The new X70.

 

Edit: oops missed the new page sorry.

[ianpiper]

Hi guys,  

  I am new here. Just getting back into photography and wanted to go with a smaller camera than a dslr since i am more likely to take it around with me.  I am just learning. I liked the fuji cause most of the controls are right on top and its mirrorless and smaller.  I was pretty set between the x100t and xt1 but than I saw the x pro 2 is coming out in a couple days.  Is that line better or comparable.  I don't want to have to upgrade anytime soon and would like to get something pretty good.  

 

My interests.

         Street Photography

         Nature Photography

         Model Photography

 

I am hoping to purchase one either tomorrow or this week when the Pro 2 goes on sale.  So any help is greatly appreciated. I don't want to make the wrong choice. Also if you guys have suggestions of cameras other than these feel free to chime in. 

I've owned most of the Fuji X series cameras, and my current line-up is an X100, X-T1 and X-Pro1. These three are keepers for me - even when I move on to other cameras I doubt that I would sell any of these.

 

For street photography, the X100(/S/T) is compact and unobtrusive. You can carry it in a fairly large coat pocket. Usability is really good - the fact that all the controls are on the outside was one of the big things that sold me when I bought my X100. The X-Pro1 has a similar form factor but is much bigger and heavier. On the other hand it has interchangeable lenses, while the X100's options are more limited.

 

For nature/landscape photography the X-T1 is brilliant. It is weatherproofed, has a nice bright viewfinder and has external controls for extra things like ISO, drive setting and photometry. It is the best camera I have ever owned. The only things I can envisage improving it are the things announced for the X-Pro2 - dual slots, combined ISO/shutter speed controls, 24 MP sensor.

 

By the way, there is life in the old X-Pro1 dog yet, and you can buy it new in the UK for only £300. I expect that price will drop now that its successor is out. You could do worse than buying one of these and spending the money you've saved on lenses. And with the sole exception of the 60mm macro, I've had nothing but superlative performance from my Fuji glass. 

 

I noticed several folks suggesting the XT10. I know it's keenly priced compared to the X-T1, but I've handled one and it feels a little - clunky - to me.

 

Summary: if you want a camera that covers the uses you set out, I'd go for the X-Pro1 if you are short of cash or the X-T1 if money's no object. If you want to start with one lens to sell you on the Fuji way it has to be the 35mm f1.4 for me - my favourite lens. If you want to travel light get the 18-55 mm and 55-200 mm lenses. If you don't mind carrying stuff and money's no object I'd suggest the 35mm f1.4 or f2, the 10-24mm f4 zoom, the 56mm f1.2, the 90mm f2, the 55-200mm and also wait for the 120mm macro that is on the roadmap.

[enthawizeguy]

the 10-24 will probably be my next purchase... or x100t

[jorjitop]

I would say you should go for the X-T10 or the X-T1.  Then you can see what lenses you might want to accumulate.  The X-pro 2 will not be available until the end of February, will be much more expensive, and is bigger and heavier than even the X-pro 1.  The X100T is really better for street photography, but loses out if you want flexibility.  Sorry, but for all those who recommend the X-pro 1, that is very old technology even if the sensor is the same as all but the newest X pro. 

[immo_p]

Can't go wrong with you X-T1. Enjoy it...X-T10 would have been my suggestion if bought new, but with an X-T1 for 800 you have an even better camera.

[MrGecko]

At this point, I'd wait for the X-Pro2

I would agree.  If only street then X100.  Also good for 75% of travel use too.  I love my XT but will be waiting to go back to the x100 as soon as they update with Pro guts

[Michael McKee]

If you are new to photography you won't know yet what you will really be shooting or really what you want in a camera. Ideas change after the first year or two. For most beginners it's best to get an adequate camera to learn with. The X-T10 with a 18-55 kit lens is perfect for that, and it's better than just adequate. The 18-55 lens is quite high quality and not something that you'll outgrow.

Learn your camera. Learn your lens, then invest in more glass, which is the only real investment with digital cameras as the bodies will only last a few years. Good lenses can last as long as you do. After you know more about your personal habits and style, then you won't have to ask anybody which camera to buy. You'll know. Then you will have your first purchase as a backup, which is always a good thing to have as sh*t happens and it's nice to not have to wait for repairs to get out shooting.

You could also go for the new X-E2s if you want to do more street shooting. I have an X-E2 and X-T1. I use the X-T1 for landscapes as the tilt screen is very useful for low shots and on a tripod. I also use it in the studio as the viewfinder is great for portraits. I use the X-E2 around town as I like the rangefinder style for offhand shooting. It was my only camera for a while when the X-T1 was in the shop. It's totally fine camera.

The X-100 is more a specialists tool, great for experienced shooters who know its limits. I wouldn't recommend it as a first camera.

[leifbrandt]

I would suggest getting a used xt1...but wait until the xpro2 is actually shipping. The xt1 is a lot more straight forward to use vs the x100t. I love the x100t but find it can still be a little quirky. The XT1 is still a very capable camera and the main reason I will be switching to the xpro2 is the dual card slots. I know I will have 2 used XT1s available once I actually get the xpro2 and I'm guessing the used price will be worth the wait for you. You could prob save enough money buying a used one to get a nice lens with it

[StephenClint]

Dammit just get a POLARIOD!! lol!

[gordonrussell76]

Just to jump in on the 35mm F2 vs F1.4 issue.

 

The old lens is still superior in my opinion. Its fast enough on an X-T1 and I imagine will be pretty fast on a X-Pro2. So its weather sealed and a bit less noisy and the aperture ring is better built. 

SOOOOO

 

The 1.4 renders like nothing else. Honestly I judge every other Fuji to how close it is to the 35mm 1.4, still even the 90mm whcih is a ridiculous lens and renders beautifully, I still prefer the rendering out of the 35mm 1.4.

 

I think the novelty of the F2 is playing a part here, I think in about 2 years when dust is settled the concensus will land back on the 35mm 1.4 I also think that the lack of Weather Sealling and fast AF are problems, but in my opinion this lens will be the first to get a Mkii in the line up, keep the glass and optical formula the same, put in a better motor and a few rubber rings, done.

 

Also shoot the 1.4 at 2 its so sharp, you still get nice out of focus areas and its just gorgeous. ALso shoot it at 5.6 on the street, its such an amazingly versatile lens. You can use it at 5.6 to 8 and its fantastic sharp deep DOF street lens, or crank it to 1.4 to 2 and its an amazing portrait lens.

 

 

 

 

G

[czechappleguy]

I was going to say one word before you went out and purchased something.

 

RENT!

 

Everyone that is always looking to get into a new camera system should put aside about $100-200 and rent the stuff you are looking at wanting to get.  That way you know for sure what is going to work for you and then you just add that back into what you already knew you we're going to spend by saving up your money from another paycheck.

 

I have done this so many times because in the end it's a fraction of the cost to pick it up and use it from someone else and beat the hell out of it before you go out and purchase it for yourself and then find out it wasn't what you wanted in the first place.

 

I love my X-T1 with my assortment of lenses and I just picked up an X100s and I'm loving it also.  I have the 23mm f/1.4 and it works great just as swell as the 23mm f/2 does on my X100s lens also.

 

Have fun with what you purchased already.

 

Czech

[czechappleguy]

Oh and BTW...you won't be buying anything X-Pro2 this week as you will have to wait until the end of Feb. to get it...so yea!

 

Czech