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The Future of Fuji's APS-C Lenses - VOTE YOUR FAVORITE


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OIS is of little interest to me on lenses <100mm, if i'm shooting a landscape at F/16 and 1/15 sec, I'd be using a tripod and a shutter release cable.

 

I'd like the availability of long prime lenses 200/300/400mm with OIS and support for tele-converters.

 

If the 35 F/1.4 had exactly the same optical performance and all that was changed was the focusing motor (you can add WR if you want) then fair enough, I'd probably still not replace version 1 of this lens (unless it died) as it is the best lens i've ever used

I'd much rather see a new flagship lens in a 33 or 35  F/1 (even if i could never afford/justify buying it)

 

TBH I'd like a 2 tier lens line up to continue, smaller, cheaper, slightly slower, WR lenses

 

Fuji have a 16, 23, 35, 56, 90 Fast lenses (F/1.2 - 2) I've included the 90 here because F/2 at 90mm is a very shallow DOF

Then if Fuji expand the New MKII lens range to include a wider lens and a longer lens it will be a nice set of options for most photographers.

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I recently bought ( and then returned ) the 16-55, the reason why I returned the lens was a malfunction but having this lens caused me to ponder about the apparent dichotomy that the fuji system is currently living through.

 

This system started as a reasonably priced, high quality, SMALL camera & lenses system, which built its successes around a small sensor performing well above its size.

 

There were limitations but they were deemed merely acceptable trade-offs, at least this was the attitude by the first generation of fuji users with respect of the size of camera and lenses and their price.

 

Last but not least, the cameras were appealing people whom were seeking a camera looking rather more to a camera of the past (like in “ operating like a classic camera") rather than to a camera of the future.

 

A camera and a lens system that was not trying to keep up with Nikon, Canon and Leica, but a camera a a lens system doing pretty much their own thing. Something of its own.

 

So, at least in the beginning, this camera therefore suited a category of middle aged, old-fashioned photographers or, paradoxically, of young hipsters alike.

 

These people made the fortune of a brand, a brand that was struggling to sell cameras before they started doing the new X cameras.

 

And few years down the line?

 

Now It is getting increasingly difficult to recognize the fundaments of the Fuji system in the current (and perhaps future) production.

 

First of all the camera.

 

All of a sudden users were demanding things that the camera newer had.

 

4K filming and faster focus came at a huge price. 

 

The new X-T2 yes is capable of this but only with the power grip providing more power ( you need the new batteries b.t.w.) and at the same time dissipating the heat generated by the processor ( which was never designed to perform like this).

 

The power grip dimensions and weight make now this camera almost in DSLR territory.

 

24Mp was a must ( I am still baffled by why). A conditio sine qua non, although few people ever print their pictures and hardly ever at their maximum allowable size.

 

Lenses are growing is size and weight (nullifying the size advantage of the camera system over a DSLR) and users are demanding OIS, ISIS , apertures of 1.4 and above...

 

All this will increase weight even more, size and price.

 

In actual fact if Fuji would listen to all the pleas and prayers :rolleyes: we would have a camera that would be twice as big and twice as expensive .

 

Like the more expensive Nikon and Canon.

 

 

The largest camera with small size sensor in the world! :blink:  Of course it needs touch screen and more menu’s and all sorts of modern things. They all have it after all!

 

Instead of competing being different, they are demanding Fuji to compete being the same.

 

Which was precisely what Fuji tried before, with NO succes!

 

 

Of course now we need a 35mm f0.85! Of course we need a Macro lens 1:1 90mm with OIS  and f1.8!...

 

The question is... would it still be the Fuji system that I liked? Hardly.

 

Someone wrote an article saying the reason he didn’t upgrade to the X-T2 is the Fuji GFX ( GIANT FUJI X)  exactly ... a different camera, for a different public.

 

Please please Mr. Fuji, don’t make this the largest and most expensive system around a small sensor in the world, please, will you?

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Something sub f2, with great autofocus in the 33-35mm prime range would be ideal. Anything after that bonus.

 

As for people wanting the X-Series to other basic features competing models do at the same price point...I'm not struggling to see the logic in that. Nor can I see he "huge" comprises made in the XT2.

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The largest camera with small size sensor in the world! :blink:  Of course it needs touch screen and more menu’s and all sorts of modern things. They all have it after all!

 

Instead of competing being different, they are demanding Fuji to compete being the same.

 

Which was precisely what Fuji tried before, with NO succes!

 

 

 

I'm not sure that I agree. I've never understood the "mirrorless cameras are meant to be small" argument. IMHO they don't have to be small. Plus, Fuji camera still have unique handling and UI, not to mention a fantastic lens lineup that is native only to their bodies.

 

I do some paid work around my day job; mostly weddings, events, and portraiture. I like a larger, heavier camera for paid work, because it's easier to carry around for long hours, and the extra weight helps steady my hands (note that "larger and heavier" are relative). I could shoot Canon or Nikon (in fact, I did shoot Canon before switching to Fuji), but I choose to shoot Fuji because I like the handling, lenses, and the accuracy of the on-chip AF.

 

If Fuji kept with the "mirrorless should be small" mentality and didn't offer heavier bodies with extra grips, or fast, optically-corrected primes, I wouldn't shoot their cameras. Because they do offer those options, I happily choose to use their cameras. If you like Fuji but don't want a large, heavy kit, then choose their smaller bodies and lenses.

 

I often see posters on this forum air grievances with a camera or a rumoured set of specs, and you respond by telling them that maybe Fuji cameras and lenses aren't for them. If you don't like the way Fuji is heading, then maybe they're not the system for you.

 

Edit: To keep this on-topic, I voted for the 33/35mm f/1.0, and the 8-16mm 2.8.

 

Since I shoot mostly people, events, and often indoors, the 2.8 aperture is more valuable to me than f/4 and OIS. 8-16mm is enough range for me - if that smaller range and no OIS keep it around the same size (and price?) of the 10-24, I'd likely buy it within a year.

 

I love shooting fast lenses, so if they announce the ~33 f/1 and it's under $1500CAD, it'll be my next camera purchase.

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Well the next lenses in sight for me will be the 56mm to complete my prime set up.  But I'm looking forward to Fuji's ultra-wide 8-16mm lens.  That will complete my zoom trinity. 

 

But I would like an updated 30'ish lens with WR as well. 

 

I was really looking forward to Fuji's 120mm macro till they abruptly cancelled it.  I'm not really sure about the upcoming 80mm macro lens.

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