I didn’t know this, no OVF above 60mm?

[milandro]

Now that this camera has become very cheap, I have been thinking of buying one a couple of times and like me several people might have done so but I wonder if tis aspect of this camera is clear to everyone.

 

I never heard this before but as I was reading a test of the 90mm ( carried out with the X-Pro-1) on Jason Pitcher’s blog, my eye fell upon a comment which sort of horrified me ( although once it sunk in it is pretty logical that it is this way) but the OVF doesn’t work with lenses longer than the 60mm ( and I suppose shorter than something else perhaps the 18mm?).

 

 

Not that it is terrible ( since there is a EVF)  but it is worth thinking about it before buying.

 

 

 

[CRAusmus]

Is it that it doesn't work, or that the frame lines don't line up like every other rangefinder camera?  

[Snzkgb]

OVF may not provide frames for anything longer than 60mm, but nothing stops people from using longer lenses on X-Pro 1:

 

[Dominique_R]

I acquired the 90/2 a few days ago and I too was surprised not to be able to use the OVF with it: you pull the front side lever, and nothing happens, you remain in the EVF. Then I figured that the focal length was probably too tight for the frame lines to display in any kind of useful manner in the OVF, probably because magnification cannot change to make the frame more discernible.

 

It's strange, though, because the OVF is perfectly usable with the 55~200...

 

Maybe that will be addressed in the X-Pro2 OVF. At least, that would be a welcome improvement in my opinion. I've gotten sort of used to using the EVF with the 90/2 but I definitely like it a lot less than the OVF.

[Max_Elmar]

X-Pro2 needs a third OVF magnification ratio! Currently X-Pro1 has x.3 for wides, x.6 for normals - Fuji - please give us a 1:1 option for the 60 and 90, like the great Japanese RFs of yore! (Nikon S2, S3, S4, SP, and Canon P all have 1:1 finders!) That would be amazing.

[milandro]

Is it that it doesn't work, or that the frame lines don't line up like every other rangefinder camera?  

 

 

No with some lenses does show a red frame and with some other lenses doesn’t work at all.

[Max_Elmar]

No with some lenses does show a red frame and with some other lenses doesn’t work at all.

Firmware up-to-date in camera and lenses? The 90 is so new - surely the X-Pro1 would need a FW update to use it properly, no?

[milandro]

people who have found this out have their firmware as up to date as it possibly can be on a camera which hasn’t received meaningful and to this point updates in a while.

[Max_Elmar]

I wouldn't say that 3.41 was not meaningful, as it kept the camera useable with Win10. Still, point well taken that the X-Pro1 has fallen behind. With Fuji, we simply expect a bit more - as the company has gone to some lengths to set these expectations.

[milandro]

meaningful in relation to this problem   windows 10 compatibility has no bearing on this and as such, that update is meaningless.

[CRAusmus]

This is not a problem as it relates to the use of the camera.  The camera still works, although with out the use of OVF, of course.  I personally don't think they intended the camera to ever be used with zoom lenses or any focal length outside the normal range.  Perhaps with the X-Pro 2 they will have a switch, like analog rangefinders did, or something.

[milandro]

well, it is a problem is one, attracted by the low price of the  X-PRO-1 unwittingly buys this camera thinking that you can use it with the OVF also with longer focal lenses.

 

The purpose of the thread is to warn such buyers.

[Alan Sircom]

Having tried to use a Leica M6 with a 135mm lens in the film era, you really don't want the OVF to reach too far into the telephoto. The bright frame for 135mm is tiny in the viewfinder, magnifiers never seem to work as well as you would expect, and parallax errors plague your picture taking, no matter how good the parallax compensation system. 

[milandro]

again, this thread is not about whether this would be desirable or not, it is a warning to those who might not have realized this.

[CRAusmus]

All I'm saying is this is the nature of rangefinders.  Everyone who's ever shot one knows this.

 

I understand what you are doing and I appreciate you bringing this up.

 

With the success of the X-Pro1, I have no doubt that this will be something that Fuji addresses in the X-Pro2.

[Bike Tourist]

All I'm saying is this is the nature of rangefinders.  Everyone who's ever shot one knows this.

 

I understand what you are doing and I appreciate you bringing this up.

 

With the success of the X-Pro1, I have no doubt that this will be something that Fuji addresses in the X-Pro2.

 

 

I agree 100%. The RF cameras were never designed for long lenses or zooms. It's unrealistic to try to force them into the mold of a reflex. There are plenty of EVF and SLR cameras, if that is the way you work. The fact that the X-Pro1 does a credible job with lenses outside the range of the OVF is a credit to its design and a plus for the owner. If you think that's inconvenient, try using a Visoflex on a Leica!

 

[milandro]

Once Again  , I didn’t start this thread for those who have the benefit of their superior knowledge or intuition and know all along that this not possible.

 

I have a fair bit of experience and yet didn’t realize this until I saw it, so I started this thread as a warning for those who, not gifted with experience, intellect of deductive capability might have unwittingly not realized this.

 

This thread is a warning to those folks.

 

If you didn’t need the warning or to be told any of this, I am very happy for all you... this thread is for the rest of us.

 

So, should you find it useless, please, disregard.

[Jürgen Heger]

Milandro, take it easy. You are one of the most active persons in this forum. You should already have got used to this kind of discussion.

If someone has a question like "Can I do A with my X" you can be sure there are replies like

- Why do you want to do A. Doing A is stupid. Do B.

- No one ever buys X to do A. You should have bought Y to do A.

- You can do C. It is not the same as A but C is great.

Another alltime favorite for is:

- I don't have the answer, but would be interested in the answer as well.

 

This is what we have to expect when we post. So just ignore it.

[milandro]

words of wisdom, I shall.