milandro

...but of course all the people who aren’t using this lens on a camera sporting the new firmware cannot appreciate its improved performance! ( sorry, the X Pro 1 and the X-E1 can’t have the new firmware and the X-E2 COULD have it but Fuji has not seriously spoken, aside a vague declaration of intents by Fuji France alone, of when there will be one and IF it will be of the same nature of the other cameras which do have it)

on the other hand, should any harm come to your camera because the open door could potentially let water in, hence causing the camera to stop working, then the importer could suppose that the deriving malfunction could reasonable have come from your negligence in not having the door repaired. Quite a conundrum if you ask me.

I have, but only very briefly, toyed with the idea of buying an half case for the X-T1 when I bought this camera following my X-E1 ( which, instead, I immediately accessorized with a tan leather halfcase). I did this ( or rather I didn’t) because in my opinion, unlike its predecessor which I used on the X-E1, the halfcase of the X-T1 offers little to no extra comfort or protection to the X-T1 and amounts to little more than simple bat rather expensive embellishment ( to which one has every right if one is so inclined!). Indeed it looks like there are two different types on the market. This one has no card access, so, indeed you need to take it off every time. Cheaper versions have access but really only offer minimal protection in front, none at the back and only “ protect” the bottom of the camera. But I’d much rather have a L bracket effectively protecting the bottom part of the camera, the front, although partly and on one side alone, while offering full access, front grip, and tripod quick attachment.

we shall see, it is pointless to think about tomorrow with yesterday’s minds

but this is not about the length of the guarantee ( which in Europe has to be a minimum of two years). This is about a manufacture defect which might reveal itself one day past whichever period your guarantee says and still be pertaining the manufacture responsibility which goes way beyond the maximum guarantee

There is no doubt in my mind that nobody, in the camera industry, saw the mobile revolution as a real threat to the use and diffusion of cameras until it was too late. I am afraid this is a lost battle and sooner or later they will take over the market leaving cameras being an oddity. Some young hipsters are buying vinyl records and use cameras, their numbers are very limited and once our generation will be gone the market will be left with a very small number of people using things other than handheld multitasking media devices .

@Schwinni Cheers, find it all here in post #3 http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/122-my-favorite-camera-bag-is/?hl=jill.e&do=findComment&comment=576

most of us don’t have that option. In the Netherlands there isn’t a Fuji repair center. You have to take you camera to the shop which then send it to Germany for a MINIMUM or 2 to 3 weeks turnaround.

I am no longer an UK resident and I haven’t been for many yeas...

Cashbacks in Italy I hope. Cashbacks in the UK are for UK residents only.

I’ve been thinking of the possibility to buy one of these. Bellows are and always were, generally speaking, very under-appreciated, because of their clumsiness and the fact that the image, at least on a regular reflex camera, gets very dark indeed. But a mirrorless with a EVF has a little less problems dealing with a picture with an EVF which enhances the dark image and (within reason) which doesn’t appear much darker than any other picture also in relative low light. Besides, bellows can give a new life to long lenses taken off very large and old camera , lenses which wouldn’t be all that different from one of these expensive Petzval fellas or give new life to all manner of Apo-(and or) enlarging lenses which can be bought for next to nothing these days. The use of a tilting ( and, dare I say, shifting!) bellows, such as the Nikon PB-4 would make all the more sense and fun with these lenses both for proper macro or creative portrait use. Discuss...

well, not exactly “ on arrival” since most of the cameras are older than the minimum of 1 year guarantee The EU has a mandatory minimum of 2 years despite what some sellers would want!. Manufacturer Negligence, is, in this case, the American term used for delivering a product to the public which, even after the expiring of the guarantee reveals itself to be not fit for the intended purpose. as in: “....The manufacturer's negligence may be: a failure to take care during the manufacturing process, resulting in a particular product being defective; a failure to take care during the design of the product, including a failure to carry out sufficiently careful research; a failure to carry out effective tests; a failure to provide an effective warning of dangers; a failure to recall a product, or to issue appropriate warnings if a danger becomes apparent after the product has been put into circulation....." Perhaps one could say that the camera showing a damaged and bulging door is not “ fit for purpose” and indeed refer to the weather resistance. If the product was, as it was, advertised as being a WR camera and it no longer is ,it is then NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE ( the purpose for which you had bought the camera in the first place). Under the UK sales of goods act of 1979 “...The Sale of Goods Act also says that goods must also be fit for any specific purpose that you have agreed with the seller. For example, you might need a printer which is compatible with your computer. If you buy a printer because the salesperson says it's compatible with your computer, it must be compatible. If you later find out that it isn't, you can claim the printer isn't fit for purpose..." WE bought the cameras assuming that it was going to be weather sealed (for as long the camera works and not for one year alone) if the camera is obviously no longer WR it is not fit for THAT purpose (as advertised when we bought it). The guarantee terms are also such in Dutch law ( my country) that the shop>importer>maker ( this is the chain of responsibility starting from the shop, the closest one to the customer) has an theoretical obligation to repair or exchange any faulty goos for an undetermined period which is dependent upon what one, as a customer, would normally consider the normal useful life expectancy for any given product. In the case of a camera this is several years. The EU in general takes a rather serious approach to this problem but not always as strict as it can be in each separate member country. http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/shopping/shopping-abroad/guarantees/index_en.htm Ireland (for example) has a 6 years period in which one can bring action against any seller having sold something not fit for purpose. http://www.eccireland.ie/popular-consumer-topics/buying-goods-and-services/

well, better thinking twice before you do then!

If....... conjunction introducing a conditional clause, something that isn’t here and now and that, as far as we know, here and now, might never materialize. The future will naturally bring better cameras, with better everything. One can spend a whole life waiting for Godot and for the next camera to come... and take no pictures in the meantime........... but we live here and now. Better a ( not-so-bad) camera in your hands than a greater one in the mind of the engineers.

well, not exactly, HRK. I’ve helped a friend yesterday with installing his firmware on his NEW camera. After installing the camera firmware version 4.0, his 18-55mm firmware was still one version prior to the last (we checked it) and so we upgraded the software of the lens, separately too. Upgrading the body firmware doesn’t ( necessarily) upgrade the lens firmware.

I am assuming that your X30 has similar controls as my X10. access menu ,access film simulation menu, navigate up and down with the wheel.

Get in touch with the Japanese office, despite what the American importer can say , a manufacturing defect ( because this is what it is) is not what the normal guarantee is about and constitutes negligence on the maker’s side (not the user) and the user cannot be held responsible for something cause by the use of poor materials or their faulty installation! The plastic which protects the camera is not supposed to do this after one year or two. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_liability

Complex plight. You seem to be enticed by the OVF and that seems to be determining your choice more than anything else. That thing alone compels you to buy either yesterday’s camera with interchangeable lenses (however one puts it the X Pro 1 is an older camera with less modern features than other X camera) or to buy a X100 S or T. Frankly speaking ( but I respect your choice) the OVF might turn out to be more an hang up than anything else. But then again it is your money, your camera and you have to live with your choice.

nice to hear, that, yet again, there is another bit of software which has been brought to our attention. I am getting just a touch weary though of all the software available. I was PS user for a long time, then I became an Aperture user, then I went to Lightroom. Of all these things I found out the good and the not so good things but I could really, use all of them or use a simple Pixelmator. I often see on line wizards and bloggers who are great self declared experts and who illustrate all this expertise with the lamest of the pictures. When I read the very complex Ansel Adams books, on the technical aspects of (his) photography, at least I knew that he was an incommensurable photographer. He left giant steps behind in his wake, he was a Giant. Some of these people ( I am not referring to the reviewers of this software) are positively photographic pygmies but very vocal about what they sell. Perhaps I am just getting a little bit confused with all the alternatives and all the variants thrown in the mix each time there is a new firmware update or a new software claiming that they can do wonders for my files.

Arhur & his Lyrist

cheaper alternatives are all around us ( ali baba and express are full of them) but they are all too short and don’t have the right shape for use on the X-T1, you end up with something like this... hardly comfortable! Look at how tense the thumb is!

and more importantly, a relaxed and well rested thumb is worth it

I like buying nice things, even if they are not, strictly speaking very useful and sometimes even if they are expensive ( leather camera bag,leather strap, lolumina soft shutter release........) but I too find the lensmate very expensive ( I don’t know about being overpriced, maybe the superior forging technique used by their silversmiths who have to be compensated for so kindly producing this object of some people’s desire in lieu of placing their efforts in producing expensive jewelry... ) and personally, I don’t feel the need for my thumb to rest ( despite it being affected in two parts by arthritis) more than it already does on the more than adequate rubber rib which the designers of my X-T1 so kindly provided, at no extra cost ( Oh well! Unless that is, the rubber thumbrest, what made my camera almost €1200 when I bought it! I can’t help thinking that if it were built by the lensmate people the Fujifilm would cost way more that it does, been built by lesser people who no doubt are no goldsmiths? ). Besides, as noted by a number of other people here and elsewhere, the thumbrest creates an excellent possibility to have a more than destructive incident with the thumbrest being caught into something and quite literally ripping off the hot shoe of your, until then, beautiful and expensive camera. Apparently all the other thumbrests available for pennies from China ( 50 pieces for $100, shipped ) are not long enough and definitely inferiorly made in some Chinese sweatshop. Yet, a friend of mine in a shop said that he would have been able to give me a very good discount on a lensmate since the shop’s mark up was “ substantial ‘ on products like these.

and what’s more important, they are two different species

In all frankness I find the camera rather more complicated that it needs to be ( for me that is) and in some cases downright awkward with functions that are there but only work , for example, in MS or with more than one setting to be switched in or out. My answer to it is to use the camera with the functions that I need and keep the other functions in mind (and that’s why I wanted a NEW small portable manual, like the one I have from when the camera was new, with all the new functions in it and with simple instructions as in: if you want to do this, do 1, 2, 3... Some members told me to buy a book that another member wrote (which is definitely too big to take with me and wouldn’t be as coincise as I had in mind because you can’t charge good money for what I had in mind). Yes.......as they say, keep it simple. If Fuji can’t , we can.