Metering on XT2 not the same as XT1?

[Adam Woodhouse]

Shot a wedding today with XT1 and XT2.  Both cameras set to centre weight metering.  I found for the exact same scene the XT2 would underexpose again and again by approx 1/2 stop when the XT1 would nail the exposure.

 

Has anyone else noticed the XT2 seems to under expose some of the time (maybe they are scenes where there are bright highlights and the XT2 favours the highlights more than the XT1)?

[Aswald]

It's the same with the Pro2 and Pro1. Pro2 exposes darker and the shadows are darker as well. Seems to be biased towards the highlights more than the Pro1 would. On mine, it's more 1/3rd than 1/2.

 

So, maybe it's the "improved" metering for Fujifilm. Not sure.

[flysurfer]

Shot a wedding today with XT1 and XT2.  Both cameras set to centre weight metering.

 

 

Since the X-T1 doesn't even have center-weighted metering, that's unlikely.

[gordonrussell76]

Given flysurfer post I am not sure of the validity of the comparison, and I no longer have my X-T1 as I part exchanged it for the X-T2.

 

However even if this was true it would be a bonus for me as I always felt the X-T1 slightly overexposed for my tastes when I was in any kind of Auto mode i used to have EV at -1/3 to -2/3 of a stop as default.

 

So it will be niec ot know I can leave it at 0

[Adam Woodhouse]

My mistake.  

 

Even though the the symbol on the metering dial is the same, on the XT2 it is centre weight when on the XT1 it is Multi.  On the XT2, Multi is a different symbol.  So I wasn't comparing apples-to-apples.

 

I'll have to test a bit more but I expect in time, knowing this my exposure between the two will be more consistent.

[flysurfer]

Multi will of course be different between the two models, but we already know this since the X-T10, so nothing really new here. 

 

Well, except for one thing: they fixed the adapted lens exposure "bug" in the X-T2. It's still in the X-T0, X-E2, X-E2S and X-Pro2. At least it was when I tested this several weeks ago. T1 never had this issue thanks to its old multi metering algo.

[Jürgen Heger]

@flysurfer:"adapted lens exposure bug"???

Would you like to provide a link if you can?

[Puma Cat]

Adam, I am finding essentially the same thing; but to put it a bit differently, I am finding that in "Multi" (what Fuji refers to as "Pattern" in the EXIF file) that my X-T2 will often overexpose by about +1/3 EV. I often find that the Center-Weighted Average metering mode is a more accurate read of the scene than Pattern/Multi. We should bring this up with Fuji, because I think the Multi algorithm is still off a bit, about +0.33 to 0.5 EV). It appears the new Multi-Pattern metering algorithm is "emphasizing" different parts of the scene than the X-T1 did to set exposure settings. 

Edited September 20, 2016 by Puma Cat

[Puma Cat]

Since the X-T1 doesn't even have center-weighted metering, that's unlikely.

Regardless of how the metering modes are labeled, what we are finding is the X-T2 in Multi mode does not appear to be as accurate, or more descriptively concordant with, the X-T1 using it's older algorithm Multi metering mode. I am going to do some controlled testing on a tripod to compare histograms, etc. 

Edited September 20, 2016 by Puma Cat

[Adam Woodhouse]

I know that as I've owned different cameras over the years (Nikon D80, D200, D300, D300s, D700, D610, D3s) and now two Fuji's (XT1 and XT2) ... every camera meters a little different.  I have found it simply is a learning curve and getting use to the personality of the new camera.  

 

My original post was directed at two very different results from the XT1 and XT2 when I thought the metering mode on the cameras were set the same.  Since they were not, it makes sense I would have had such drastic differences in certain scenarios.  In particular, images on my XT2 were almost 1 full stop underexposed when there was something bright (i.e. a white shirt that dominated the scene) and that didn't happen on the XT1. But that was when I was using a different metering mode on the XT2 versus the XT1 which I didn't realize at the time.