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sure, but you can minimize the impact by picking a body with larger grip . So it's not completely moot. You still end up with something smaller and lighter. Just not the absolutely smallest and lightest. Its like buying a small fuel efficent car, but opting to pay extra for the hatchback or wagon/estate instead of the sedan. It has value for some people. btw, I have a 1" sensor camera that is smaller than my Fuji. That too has a very substantial grip that is more comfortable than my X-E1 without the grip. Its a Nikon 1 V2. There are other Nikon 1 models without the grip and EVF like the J series as well as the Sony RX100. For someone coming from a DSLR, the model with the EVF and larger grip will be preferred. From someone coming from a smartphone, they could probably care less and just go for the slimmer J series without the EVF and added grip. The Sony RX100 and J series are unacceptable to ME, due to the lack of grip. However, they have no issues selling them to most others who are not as picky as I am. Again, it all boils down to what is important to each person and what you are used to using. If there is an option for larger grip, even on a tiny camera like the Nikon 1 series, I will pick it given the option. Just like I would pick a wagon/estate in a small car over a sedan. It might be slightly larger, heavier, less fuel efficient, not as attractive, more expensive.. but in the end.. its all a very worthwhile trade off to ME.

citral, I think most people support large lens with two hands. A larger grip makes it even better if you shot for an extended period. You feel it each time you raise the camera into position. If you don't mind having a smaller grip, that is great. For most people coming from DSLRs, they see value in it. Its would be a foolish argument to attempt to prove otherwise. As they say, you don't know what you missing until you have had something better. Many people come to the Fuji brand from DSLRs, where the grip is a standard luxury. Its like heated seats in a car. Once you have them, you don't tend to go back easily. For those who never had them in a car they owned, they think its silly. Just put on a jacket.

I think you are arguing that spot meter is obsolete in the same was that correct framing (vs cropping in post) and making sure the horizon is level (vs straightening in post). I think to most people who are willing to do these kind of corrections in post, then you are correct. However, there are some people who see it as a necessity to do things as much as possible in camera. Not only does it save time in post but it also maximizes workable dynamic range.

Thanks for the warning. In my opinion, repetitive torque fatique on the hot shoe through normal use is more probable to cause damage than accidentally hooking the grip backwards on something. I'll take care not to hook mine backwards and take that risk. The lensmate makes a huge difference in comfort and makes it worth the risk to me. Then again, I don't use a UV filter to protect my front lens elements either because the risk is worth the increased IQ to me. Yeah, I live on the edge. ...next step.. unprotected sex.

its funny how many people say it's no big deal with LR, but I wager that when and if Adobe gets their act together with X-Trans support , then people will be raving about it like it was some miracle feature that came from the heavens.

Hi Andrew, You are not alone. Here is a quote from the following review. "The handling of the X-T10 could either be it’s most winning feature, or it’s biggest failing. Subjectivity comes into play, but shooting style will also matter. To sum up, the X-T10 isn’t particularly well built for marathon shooting sessions. It’s a camera you keep slung around your shoulder, neck or wrist for hours on end, grabbing pics here and there. This camera is wonderfully small, but it’s so small, you will probably have a hard time acquiring a grip that’s comfortable for an extended period of time, unless you are a toddler. I’m not kidding, I have relatively small hands, but even my wife at 5 feet and change with even smaller hands found the X-T1 more pleasant to hold immediately. The X-T10 isn’t bad, but it won’t fit like a glove the same way the X-T1 does for many people." http://www.fujivsfuji.com/fujifilm-xt10-review/ I find most of the grip on Fuji bodies too small compared to DSLRs also. Fuji realizes this and this is why they make additional optional grips for most all of their cameras. Its no accident, its a profit making opportunity. I have both an X-E1 and X-T1. Even those were a little too small for me and have the additional grip on both. So I just budget in and additional $100+ for all the Fuji bodies when considering buying one for myself or my spouse. Adding the grip to X-E1, made it about the same grip as the X-T1 without any optional grip. It is still not enough, but better than nothing. Adding the standard optional grip to the X-T1 made it made it much better than the X-E1 w/ grip. I can't imagine getting an X-T10 without a grip. It would remind me too much of the OM-D EM-5 and EM-10. Completely unacceptable. I was not impressed with the optional grips for those models. Anyhow, this is one of the reasons that Fuji and Olympus make bigger camera and charge more. i.e. X-T1 and OM-D EM-1. Bigger body, more grip and more direct controls. IMHO, buying a used X-T1 is a great suggestion by citral. Also gives you more money to buy either the standard or large optional grips for it; if you choose. If you are like me, then you may want to consider either the standard metal or large optional hand grip added to the stock XT-1.

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What are the requirements of the job? What kind of photography? If I was in this situation, here is how I would go about it. 1. I would write down the requirements of the job in prioritized order and then 2. determine what is the best tool for the job CURRENTLY available or one with guaranteed availability and features that I can count on to meet my schedule. You stated above that your only option right now is the x-t1. I am not sure why, but I assume you know best. You are not me and I am pretty sure that no one here knows you better than you either. ;-) Having said that. Does the x-t1 meet all your requirements NOW or is there something it does not meet? If it does, then buy it. If it doesn't, but you want to wait for some hypothetical Fuji camera with some "potential" feature without a timeline that might meet your requirements, then wait. sorry if it sounds like a flow chart of boring business logic but that is how I think. If the camera purchase is truly for employment then I recommend that you treat it that way. It should make your decision easier. I personally, I don't like hurting my brain comparing real existing products to hypothetical future cameras that don't exist yet and have no guarantee of timeline or feature set that may or may not actually meet my requirements; when and if Fuji decisions to actually release something remotely aligned with the rumor mill. Maybe I'm just weird but I like to work in certainties of the present. Making a decision without all the facts in hand about requirements, timeline, feature set and price is not something that I want spend to much time thinking about. While it might be fun to work in uncertainties and unknowns of things to come, it is imply not productive use of my time, and IMHO yours either. Good luck and hope you are able come a decision without agonizing over it too much.

It sounds like you are not happy with what is available on the market today and you don't have a burning desire get a camera right now. There will always be something newer and we have no idea what it will be or when. Why not wait for the x-q1 or x-l5 instead? Why take any action at all? Tells us about YOUR motivation for upgrading in the first place.

confidence and control ... confidence and control. Some new work is starting to come in so I'll probably be posting a lot less going forward for a while. good luck and stay out of trouble. milandro, you are on watch. keep up the good work. You are a saint. ;-)

I have traditionally avoided zooms because they are too heavy and the quality is relatively poor compared to primes with my FF gear. Neither of which apply to my fuji gear and why I added Fuji lens and cameras to my equipment list. Enjoy Spain. I'll be there and Portugal soon as well.

I've been debating if I should reply to this or not. I'm not trying to attack you here and I'm not your enemy here. It's sad that you think this way about yourself and others. I think you are being too hard on yourself. I think a lot of your challenges and confrontation with others stems from this point of view. Try to figure out what made you take this kind of bias. I think you probably know. Whatever it is, It's not healthy and I'm sorry you have experienced things that have gotten you to this point. Everyone is somebody. Life is what you make of it. Keep focusing on improving yourself and stop being so critical of yourself and others. The only person that can ultimately decide your success is you. If you think it's fame and fortune, or being a better photographer, you may be disappointed. It's not. It's confidence, control over your actions and being pleased with who you are and the positive impact you have made to the people you love before you die. If you can't love yourself you are not ready to love others. I think I see a spark of hope in you based on your recent tone. Put away the mask. It's ok to be nice and stop hanging out with negative people. Not everyone is here to put you down or attack you. This type of thoughts will just guide you to the person you really don't want to be. At least not the person I think you want to be. Hope I'm not wrong about you.

Hope is what keeps many of us going. Take Apple Aperture for example. A product so loved produced by probably the most cash rich company in the world. Eventually killed off with no suitable replacement for a package that is decidedly more mainstream and less pro oriented. Nothing personal just a better business opportunity.

I guessing you didn't find what I said funny. Hard to tell when you are trying to be funny or not. В каждой шутке есть доля правды. So to error on the seriousness side, I want to say that I am sorry if I offended you somehow.

beyond my pay grade to know what is going on at Fuji specifically right now after the success of X-T1. ;-) however I can tell you this. When you are a small player your only choice to stay alive is to find a niche that the bigger guys are not willing to target. Premium niche products. As you gain your footing, you try to market products that cut more into mainstream. If you find a great deal of success with mainstream you quick focus your resources there and run with the ball as fast as you can. Often leaving behind legacy customers in your wake; unfortunately. Look at Apple and Fuji Heavy Industries. i.e. Subaru.

I am impressed with your tone. Happy to see it and hopefully it continues my fellow Fuji fan. I can definitely do that. So, lets start over. "Looks like comparable IQ to primes (sometimes slightly better, sometimes on par, sometimes slightly worse) is no longer reserved to Fuji zooms, Sigma does the same to Nikon primes on their own turf". Is this acceptable ? now how about that avatar? ;-) If not today, then hopefully soon. lol.

IMHO... ^ This right here is what Fuji is hoping.

Who? Tell us about them. Those are the guys that make iPhones, right? Do they make rangefinder X-E2 cameras too?

I think your wife has probably made you into a better person. Willing to say things ever so slightly differently to calm her down, even when she is at times being unreasonable herself. Keeping the peace is a good skill even if it involves slight bending the facts of what was actually said to calm people down to make it appear that you are somewhat on their side. Its not the first time I have witnessed your skills at work on this forum with people who shall remain nameless.

why would lack of action send new customer away and where would they go to get better service? The X-E2 didn't get worse. Its still the same (or better) camera they bought. If it is for lack of all possible updates based on newer camera, who does better than Fuji? I have an X-E1 and is is definitely better than when it was first released. Same for the X-E2. I can't say that for any other camera brand that I own. Canon, Sony, Nikon. They are exactly the same as first released. ZERO updates. Why move off of Fuji? Is the grass greener somewhere else?

sounds like we are in violent agreement. once again.

understood milandro. I was not trying to split hairs with you for the sake of argument. Just trying to understand your choice of wording which didn't match what was actually expressed in this thread by all posters involved. cheers.

could you rephrase? what answers subsequent point made by others? I didn't understand you. sorry.

agreed. However, why did you say "dislike of primes" as it relates to this thread ? Please go back and reread post #1. No one was disliking primes as far as I recall in this thread. I think if you would have flipped your statement around, that would have made more sense to the point you were trying to make and be aligned with the actually content of the thread; "So some like zooms and some don't". I'll still struggling to find why someone would "dislike" primes. You have me curious.

My read: Fuji France to HQ: Our customer are out with pitch forks and torches. They are demanding an update to X-E2 firmware. We need to give them something, the XE-2 has similar hardware and is only 3 mo older than X-T1. Fuji HQ to Fuji France: OK, ok..we will try to give them something but it is not really a priority right now for us. We have a SW release to get out for X-T10 and X-T1. We will decide what is appropriate and when after the X-T1 and X-T10 SW release is done, which is our top priority right now. We will get back to you and then we can discuss what we should offer and provide timeline.