Electronic shutter any better than XT1?

[Naddan28]

Hi All,

 

I wondered any XT2 users had noticed an improvement in rolling shutter in the XT2? I've just been out shooting some street and tried ES on my XT1 and had a fair amount of shots ruined by rolling shutter. I don't think it was helped by camera movement being caused by strong seaside breezes and motion in the scene but even so, I was disappointed in the number of distorted shots from my XT1.

 

Thanks in advance.

[milandro]

Any electronic shutter will always have issues because of the way it works, it is not an issue liked to a model or other, is the nature of the beast.

 

I don’t know why use the electronic shutter unless one really has to as for example during a theater production or, as I once did, during the recording of a CD.

[kimcarsons]

It may be slightly better, but not enough to allow you to shoot moving subjects/with camera motion.

[Naddan28]

Thanks both. Shooting primes wide open and trying to be descrete in Morocco made the e-shutter helpful. I decided to shoot in burst to help counteract the issue (normally not a "sprayer"!) so I'm confident I'll have captured a few frames distortion feee of each subject.

 

XT1 froze a bit too and the 35mm f1.4 really cannot do CAF tracking!

[kimcarsons]

I'm a huge fan of the electronic shutter for discretion. In quiet indoor settings I find I can get 3 or 4 shots off before being noticed with the electronic shutter vs 1 without. The XT-2 has another advantage over the X-T1 here in that the mechanical shutter is quieter.

 

I find that in situations where people are moving, there is enough ambient noise that shutter sounds go unnoticed. If you want to readjust your boldness level, try shooting with flash for a while, then when you go back to shooting with the mechanical shutter and no flash, you'll feel like a total stealth operative...

[eccentrus]

Electronic Shutter will introduce "jelly" or "stretched" effects unless used in very high shutter speed, this is due to the fact that CMOS sensor reads the pixel line by line, and the longer the line is read, the greater the horizontal stretching, whole or partial, will be.

 

The solution to this was the CCD sensor which reads every line concurrently, hence its former popularity in cinema circles until CMOS high sensor turn into magnificent ISO beasts.

 

So for long you use a CMOS sensor it will not act like it has a global shutter, any future tech to alleviate this effect will be based on reading the same exposure multiple times within the designated shutter speed rather than reading it once in the desired shutter speed.

 

If you want silence then I suggest to buy either one of the X100 series or the new X70 since they have leaf shutter, I use the x100 which has an abysmal autofocus which means I always get noticed before I got the focus right but I guess the newer T as I tried it was so fast it would get a pic before anyone noticed.

 

 

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[quincy]

Well... until today at least: http://www.cmosis.com/news/latest_news/industrys_first_global_shutter_48mpixel_cmos_image_sensor_from_cmosis_supports_8k_image_resolution

[RM_Photog]

I'd say the electronic shutter in the XT2 is a HUGE improvement over the XT1. I've used both quite a bit for weddings in quiet churches or corporate events where I don't want a hundred people turning around to see who's firing away at the back of the room. No, the XT2 electronic shutter isn't perfect. It can still have some stretching if you're moving while you shoot but it is a huge improvement. 

[milandro]

Both cameras (X-T1 and X-T2)  have an electronic shutte which warks exactly the same for still photography ( not for video but that is different thing), in what way is the electronic shutter of the X-T2 better the than the one on X-T1 or X-E2 or X-T10 or X-E2s?

[RM_Photog]

Both cameras (X-T1 and X-T2)  have an electronic shutte which warks exactly the same for still photography ( not for video but that is different thing), in what way is the electronic shutter of the X-T2 better the than the one on X-T1 or X-E2 or X-T10 or X-E2s?

 

The XT2 has a faster refresh rate which reduces the stretching/warping effect. It's not completely gone but it's much better than the XT1.