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Again, how would you compare lenses without including, together with the lens itself , the sensor, processor and software of each system ? Any comparison shots and prints will necessarily include all of these things. SO, in the end you will never be comparing the lenses alone. Furthermore, aside from measurable quantities, how would one measure whether one lens offers more pleasant aesthetic results than the other? Is there a way to measure this objectively?
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in all fairness... it looks really UGLY on the X-T1 much better on the X-T10
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I haven’t tried to put my camera and lens under water and I won’t do that, however, the two experiences that I’ve quoted above seem to contradict the ( double!) statement “ None of the equipment will survive a dunking of course”. And, methinks, unless one has done this oneself , one should at least give the benefit of the doubt to those who say they did ( although we don’t have evidence of the camera working in the first case and of the camera being submerged in the second case).
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The problem, as I understand it, is hot to compare the two. The lenses of digital cameras are in fact not independent from the camera they belong to because once the camera knows which lens is on it, it performs corrections which, even though people think of raw as totally untouched files, are applied to raw files too. If the lens is not electrically connected or unknown to the camera none of these corrections will be applied. If you place any the two systems on their respective cameras you are testing the lens AND the camera sensor and processor at the same time so the results might be biased one way or another by the camera and not only by the intrinsic lens quality, let alone the fact that you will then maybe develop things from raw using different conversion software. If you take the jpeg from the camera you are really messing up the test because the lenses might be better than their output for a software inadequacy. Using the same conversion software, again, might put one sensor processor and software at an advantage over another because the result of one camera perfom better with some cornversion software than with another. The only unbiased way would be to put both on a third party body and thus put them both at the same disadvantage. This would at least level the playing field
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Definitely not to repeat, especially not with a camera showing any signs of the bulging of the doors ( surely NOT water resistant !) But I am happy that Mr. Magurean risked his camera to do the equivalent of the myth -buster’s tests ( or rather the opposite! ) It’s a visual hyperbole to prove the point that water, even lots of it, wouldn’t necessarily damage the camera. A NEW camera that is! The other experiments with buckets of water and pouring rain are all closer to what most people would expose their camera to. Even then I would be cautions if the camera is not new. Though there are more people witnessing similar things as what Mr. Magurean did to his camera. Read the account by Mr. Skyler Burt http://weeattogether.com/2741/fujifilm-x-t1-review-the-ultimate-weather-test/ “.My first big scare came when I decided to hang the Fujifilm X-T1 off the side of a fishing boat zooming around Muscat’s coast. Dangling overboard from my tripod, I felt the boat dip as a salty wave engulfed the black body of camera. Shockwaves ran through me as I pondered the cost of my loaner Fujifilm X-T1 and due to the death of the camera, the end of my video on the first day of filming. I quickly wiped it dry with my shirt and lens cloth, acting calm, but inside my gut told me that death was coming for this poor little camera. As I went to turn it on again, I expected my fears to come true, but the Fujifilm X-T1 fired up like nothing happened. It took that wave like a champ, and I spent the rest of the day shooting slightly above water, splashes here and there, but not a complaint from the camera in the least..." I suppose soon someone would try the “ desert” sand and dirt test too. ( Maybe you don’t want to rent that particular camera... ... It’s a Pentax after all ) @https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo61t5fH6Qw
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commencing countdown, engines on
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The humble (though honorable) XC 50-230mm f 4.5.-6.7
milandro replied to milandro's topic in Fuji X Lenses
strange since, optically, the two lenses should be identical the only difference should only concern a slightly extended OIS and a closer up focussing distance. I can’t imagine how this would result in a lower performance of the newer type but there you go -
For what a rumor is worth....and since this is the forum of a rumor’s site after all. See the buttons on top of each page? The last one says Fuji X rumors. If you press that one and then on the page which opens in the search box you type X-T2 what you get is this: http://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-t2-coming-pretty-soon-after-the-fujfilm-x-pro2-source-right-in-the-past/ How reliable the source and how realistic the rumor I don’t know. They will replace the X-Pro-1 sooner rather than later, of course they will have to introduce something new for the Photokina 2016 , which is still one year away. Introducing the X-T2 in 2015 would take some wind off the sails of the X-T10. If I were them I would introduce the X-Pro-2 in 2015 and then wait for the Photokina to introduce the X-T2. What the exact nature of the improvements on these two cameras will be depends much of the sensor which is available to Fuji. In all honesty, having a 24Mp sensor leaving the rest pretty much the same wouldn’t make me buy another camera. If I were you I’d buy a X-T10 and wait for the bigger brother to show up. Life is too short to keep on waiting.
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well, the other video shows a less radical approach and the camera working after that treatment which answers the question which OP made, don’t you think? The first video was published 5 months ago and the maker of the video apparently a Romanian or Moldovan ( judging by the language he uses) photographer Alexandru Magurean, answered that the camera and lens worked and still works only a week ago Alexandru Magurean one week ago next episode.. By the way, camera still working fine... Anyway there are always a certain amount incredulous Thomas’ and they can do the experiment themselves. I looked for several ‘Proofs’ on line and lo and behold, there they are, Look at this! Read all about it! http://www.aboutrc.com/2014/06/16/real-world-images-w-fuji-xf-18-135-3-5-5-6-ois-weather-resistant-lens/
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fugi? since you wrote it everywhere ( title and text in several paces) it should’t be a typo and there’s probably a joke there though I am not sure which one it is others have done that too, must be a common thing which I had never seen before Dunking a camera in a creek is a rather extreme way to demonstrate that it is a Weather Resistant combination of camera and lens, aparently it is. @https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m35MqUersU of course one wants to see whether the camera works this approach is less radical but convincing @https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK3FfMCE2Ww
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My pleasure! Well, if you follow this link you will see some examples of its use too http://www.fujix-forum.com/threads/tilt-shift-lenses-for-the-x-pro-1.44289/ There are alternatives to the speed booster such as the mitakon lens turbo
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You have obviously considered the fact that your 24mm wouldn’t be all that much of a wide-angle on the fuji system since it will turn into a 35mm equivalent ( or thereabouts) so the advantages in using that particular lens are more limited than originally intended to be. I am not so sure what the problem with the lens and that adapter was but if you needed using so much torque to couple your lens on the novoflex adapter there must have been something not very good going on. I have had a looked around on line to see if others have found a successful combination of this lens and this camera and it appears that it has happened before and this forum member @rdelbar appears to have used it successfully
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now we know, better, when, prepare yourself.
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oh don’t worry they will give you that too so that you can spend a lot of money in replacing all your lenses, anything for a buck. However think that there was photography in these places even before there ever were WR cameras or lenses.
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I am not sure that I would. In fact I am pretty sure that, at present, I wouldn’t. The thing is that one of the things I like the most in the fuji system is the fact that it is small, it has at least 50% of its features ( it that isn’t so it feels so for me) linked to dials and knobs, working by and large as the cameras of my youth, and offers me enough quality for an image that can be printed up to at least 50 cm x 60cm ( although the lab promises up to 135 cm x 90 cm ). It would be a different thing if I were to chose a camera for a type of professional use which would involve the need for a larger printing output or the need ( as when I was involved in a major digitization project where the requirements were that 1 cm of the file image would ideally correspond to 1 cm of the original and to do that we used in many cases a 4" x 5” tri-pass digital back capable of producing a file of 720Mp TIFF file (if memory serves me right).
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well, you don’t have to have a choice “per se” but choice is one of the many aspects of a market economy ( I remember a trip to Jugoslavia in 1976 when we went to an ice cream parlor and I asked which flavors they had and the vendor informed me that ice cream came into one flavor, vanilla) but in order to get as much money as possible from someone’s pocket all manners of companies differentiate their production in products that are, often, very similar but have different prices or are targeted to different people so that each buys what’s most suited to them and some buy something that wouldn’t otherwise have bought at all! So, for example, the 55-200, which was actually made before the 50-230, costs twice as much as the other so, obviously, they appeal to different markets. I have little use for long lenses and would I have not found the 50-230 for €200 I wouldn’t have bought anything at all in that range and would have been happy with the 60mm as my longest lens but I did shed a few bucks which I would otherwise kept in my pocket. This new 35mm is obviously different from the other. It is weather resistant ( which may or may not be a reason to some to buy it when they wouldn’t have bought the 35 f1.4). It might be faster focussing ( but we don’t know that yet) and it might be more silent ( although my copy of the 35mm f 1.4 was so silent that it allowed me to shoot pictures during the recording of a CD ) both things were cause of complaints about the f1.4 It might have an even better optical performance ... who knows! We only need to wait, I am sure that the countless reviewers out there are all only just waiting for this thing to arrive to flood our computer screens with their opinions, often copied from one another.
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the counter shows 25 sold ( maybe they gave back the money) but I see they needed 250 sold to finance production. Too small a market. Anyway it seems to be something that could be simply by-passed by finding a clear plastic cap of the exact same diameter and hopefully the same depth ( or you can make that to size). Or indeed the clear adhesive plastic “ button” in the blog posts I am always looking for accessories but this ain’t one for me.
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Even less if you have it in one language only. I suppose one could download the latest version and edit all the PDF’s leaving only the bare essentials? The problem is that the bare essentials for you may not be the bare essentials for me, so I guess it is only possible if you make tour own version of the manual but given that this will be a fuss few will ever do that.. I will be rather content with a new version of the manual with all the new functions Obviously I consider the manual an essential accessory otherwise I wouldn’t have started this thread. This is the manual. http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/manuals/pdf/index/x/fujifilm_xt1_manual_en.pdf this is the new features guide http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/manuals/pdf/index/x/fujifilm_xt1_manual_04_en_es_ru_zhs.pdf
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Closed already? As if forfeited? They’ve sold 25 of 250 available and I suppose it would have been a marginal accessory at best.
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interesting neologism I suppose you meant evolved some people like to lock things other like to keep them unlocked like this ISO dial UN-locker for sale through this forum, apparently http://www.fujirumors.com/iso-unlocker-for-the-x-t1-for-20/
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The humble (though honorable) XC 50-230mm f 4.5.-6.7
milandro replied to milandro's topic in Fuji X Lenses
it is indeed labelled as such but shops over here tend to reserve version II to a kit with the X-A2 together with version II of the 16-50 the differences are absolutely minimal though. -
You call the shots, I have obviously a different perception, other than yours but you own the forum, I don’t. Aside from involving myself even more than I do already ( and I am not going to that, because if you don’t have time neither have I ), I don’t know that it is possible later on, unless enforcing stringent rules, to avoid having many duplicates open on a certain popular topics, since that happens every time someone on a whim decided to open yet a new thread on the 35mm or you name it... without checking whether there is one already open. I thought that at this stage things could be still done, as I said, later on anyone attempting to put order in all of this will collapse under the sheer weight of the mass of data to be put together. Now thongs could still be fixed but, yes, though manageable now, it is a lit of work, later on it will be impossible. So, I suppose that things will have to be and stay like this since you don’t take the view that this situation is conducive to an enormous amount of clutter. I always tell my wife than having things in the attic without any label or in 10 different boxes is like not having them. After all, since you pay for the space, it is your choice whether to have many “ boxes" with a few items inside or fewer "boxes “ with many items inside. Your forum, your work, your money.
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Very light efficient lenses exited since the ’20. They made a different sense in times of slow films and manual focus. But their function became very different when autofocus capabilities because faster and more precise than the average photographer could be even with a lens like this light efficient. Of course, nowadays there is a new generation of photographers who only ever used them completely open in order to get the best use of the bokeh ( Ah! The Bokeh!). One could make a case for a lens without an aperture or with a separate aperture to be used only if and when you can do without the bokeh! It’s pronounced BOKEH!
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If you know it that you know that a lens with a price point of €399 hits a different market segment than one for €1000. The 1.4 is yesteryears lens and there is no telling its place in the future plans they might keep it or disappear altogether along with the 27mm and the 18mm all lenses now sold in combination with cameras that are on the exit.
