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I have to admit that my Japanese is no longer what it used to be ... It seems to be a polarizer with a small viewfinder which only function is to show the polarizer effect to someone using a viewfinder camera. I have to say that this ticks several boxes in the weird and (methinks), rather pointless accessory category for a camera that has, along with an optical viewfinder, also an electronic viewfinder ( and few people know whether the exact same configuration will be used on the successor). If one wants to see what the polarized image looks like one switches form OVF to EVF and then goes happily back to shooting or am I wrong? However, Patrick, this is precisely the type of contribution to this thread that I was looking for, thank you! But that site is a gem! Look at this wood cover for your hot shoe and soft shutter release priceless ( or probably just pricy!).

Interestingly, apparently, judging by the fact that this appears to be sold on Amazon, in contradiction with what it was speculated when it was announced, this camera, unlike its predecessor Fujifilm IS Pro, wouldn’t be sold only to professional or governmental agencies? Can you confirm that this is the case? from wikipedia “......The IS Pro was originally intended for specialist markets like Forensic photography, medical, museum and fine art. FujiFilm generally restricts the sale of these cameras to professional users in these and similar fields; their EULA ( End User License Agreement) specifically prohibits "unethical photographic conduct". Very few have ever gone on open public sale, although some were made available via dealers at closeout prices in fall 2010...." apparently that was what the EULA deviced by Fuji looked like ​Customers of the previous camera needed to sign this, I don’t know how strict it was and how long they held themselves to this agreement afterwards but it all looks pretty official. The reason is that at least in the U.S. export of camera capable of infrared imaging is officially restricted. INFORMATION ABOUT END USER BUSINESS (1) Is End User purchasing a Fujifilm Infrared or Ultraviolet Sensitive Digital Camera for a legitimate business purpose? _______ (2) How long has End User been engaged in his/her profession or business? _________ (3) Please state End User’s legitimate business purpose?________________________________________________ (4) Has End User presented reseller with recognized forms or identification for End User and End User’s business? ___________ (5) Has End User provided reseller with copies of forms of identification presented in connection with (3), above? ____________ (6) Was End User Questionnaire completed at a business location of a Pro Digital Camera Authorized Reseller? ______________ (7) Please provide the business address where End User will pick up the camera listed below_________________________ By signing this End User Questionnaire, End User certifies that (1) the subject camera is being purchased by End User for the above stated legitimate business purpose, (2) End User will make its best efforts to safeguard the camera from being used by others, and (3) in the event End User transfers the camera or the camera is lost, stolen or is otherwise no longer in End User’s possession, End User will immediately notify Fujifilm of such event.

Well, I am not sure that buying a camera is not an impulse buying. I think that for a large part of the potential market it would certainly be. I’ve asked @Patrick FR to start a demographic poll on the forum to have a picture of the typical forum dweller ( I suppose that the forum ownership might greatly benefit from this for all sorts of reasons) and I am pretty sure that the resulting demographic data would show that the majority of the forum ( and of the Fuji market) are exactly people whom would be sensitive to spending their money in a way that it is influenced by seasonal spending patterns.

so, when? Ve im lo achshav eymatai?

January is a bad month to introduce expensive new products, people have just spent their money.

Many of the newer Fuji cameras and lenses were not introduced in conjunction with a trade fair, apparently this is what the new commercial sub-culture induced by the internet is now all about. Rumors on line create attention and then the product is released. This clearly happened for the X-T10. Whether there is OR NOT a trade event has become completely irrelevant. Nevertheless the Photokina 2016 will need at least something to make us talk about Fuji.

Fellow FR forum members, During occasional phases of boredom I like to look around the internet seeking accessories ( the weirder the better) for my camera system. Not that I would, necessarily, buy everything but I really like to treat myself to something useful or simply nice to have. In so doing I have collected a few useful things but I still like to be informed on the things which inventive people come up with every now and again. So while doing this I found this wooden thumb grip and soft shutter release, I didn’t buy it because I don’t have this particular camera but I supposed that someone else would have liked it so I brought it to your attention. http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/1624-wooden-thumb-grip-and-shutter-release-for-fuji-cameras/ wouldn’t it be nice if you were to do the same? This is a platform for this kind of things. Please feel free to add as many and weird possible accessories, ideally meant only for the Fuji system but also other ones.

Might be that they have, but, as they have postulated and hypothesized several times before, the lack of upgrade into sensor and processors has been determining a rather slow evolution in the system for either commercial or technological reasons. If that comes by design or by accident, I don’t know. http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/624-thought-on-sony-holding-back-a7000-sensorcamera-release/ http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/585-fuji-x-pro-2-will-come-only-in-to-2016-trusted-source-–-waiting-for-the-sony-a7000-sensor/ Again, I don’t think, and I realize that I speak only for myself, that I would be enticed into buying a new and improved camera, compared to my X-T1, simply because it will be featuring the addition of a 24 megapixels sensor and a new processor to match with improved autofocus speed. all thing that I have in abundance for the type of photography that I do ( portraits, still-life, landscape).

You have that option already. If you really want to do that, the easiest thing would be to take pictures of the manual (page by page), that you can read without any conversion or software by simply calling them back on the screen, but even if the liquid crystal display (LCD) of the camera is rather large it would be still very inconvenient to read this way. Alternatively you could download the PDF’s above onto your phone or tablet and read from there ( and have the benefit of a search function) but then again you would need to take that with you at all times (which some people do!).

There are as many needs as there are camera users. Some need a light lens, some need a cheap lens, some need a wide range zoon, some a narrow one and some need a specialized lens. There is no way that any brand can avoid differentiation ( a term which I’d rather use instead of “ duplication” or “ multiplication"). Also, lenses come onto the market but the the market responds with a feedback. The 35mm and the 60mm, right or wrong ( I had both and still have the 60mm and have no real complaint about that or the 35mm), were perceived as “ slow” and noisy. So the 35 has now a new lens which differs in many ways from the older one ( which might be kept in production or not, we don’t know) such as being weather resistant. The market called for weather resistance ( whether that is of true importance for the most part of the people who don’t shoot under the pouring rain of the Amazons or cross deserts it’s irrelevant, they want it and they shall have it if that’s what they want even if they don’t need it). That’s the market economy, right or wrong. The market is divided in many segments often parallel in at least some parts, thus overlaps, and makers of things need to produce as many products it is economic to produce to cover all segments, and in doing so, produce duplicates or overlaps. If they wouldn’t, the customer is quickly alienated and has the choice to go and knock on someone else’s door, someone who can offer him, right or wrong, what he wants and thinks he needs. I agree, most of this is perception. Sometimes when some fellow members disclose their equipment I wonder if they really need all those many things which they declare to have. But some of us have special needs (in some cases emotional special needs) and some of us have more money than judgement. In 1976 I went for a road trip from Italy to Turkey. We were in Yugoslavia in Split, and we went out an evening with some girls to an ice cream parlor. I enquired about the ice cream flavor and they told me that ice cream came in one flavor, vanilla. “ Tito “ ( the Yugoslavian dictator) must have thought that supplying ice cream was a good idea but that one flavor was all it could be economically done. The Soviet camera production was very large for a country where money was spread thin around the population. Despite photography being a potentially dangerous hobby (!) they acknowledged the right to amusement and intellectual engagement with the secret hope that perhaps that was taking your mind off other more dangerous disruptive thinking. They too had overlapping so even in an economic system like that there was some, though limited, choice!

yes, so a relatively small player in photography terms, and they chose indeed to depend on others. The organic sensor is a very long shot which might come to fruition in many years to come, meanwhile... .

it takes all sorts

Well this thread is a about keep the older camera or sell it. I say keep it. Consumerism is based on buying things that you don’t always need and that are mostly only things that you want. For some a new and better camera is a new tool with a chance to improve the image output, but for the majority it is only a way to own something new. Companies update cameras to attract new and old customers that’s what they do. Customers have the choice and that’s what the thread is about, keep it or sell it.

I have 8mm,12mm ( both Samyang) 18-55mm, 60mm 50-230mm ( Fuji). The 60mm is the lens to go, for me, for portraits, still life photography and macro

Precisely, so for the majority of the people who take those shots improving the camera will make no sense at all. With a little bit of self criticism one can look at the picture that one takes and ask himself: “ Do I really need a new X-Pro? Or could I take these pictures with the camera that I already have? "

Would Fuji have the money to acquire any stakes forming new partnerships with any sensor making company? As I understand, Fuji is a relatively small player which cannot measure up to giant companies and is therefore condemned by its own size to be dependent on others to develop these things which they, at best, can modify for their own purposes. The partnership with Panasonic is something which maybe is going to deliver only in a very long haul perspective and so, for now, won’t offer any answer to this question. I suppose that things are remaining as they are for Fuji, unless something really big would change them. They will be depending upon other companies, whichever these afre or whatever shape those companies take.

Yes, the proof of any pudding is in the eating. You do that and you will quickly discover what you can or can’t and what you need or don't. Just don’t start thinking that any box contains the ability to take better pictures. Good luck!

I suppose that wait and see is the best strategy. My take on this issue (and many other things) is that the great majority of the photographers don’t even use the older camera which they have to the fullest of its possibility and they are only missing what others are telling them that they are missing but have never found the limits of their equipment but rather think that they can expand their own personal limits ( those they are finding every time they pick up any camera) by buying some “ chops in a box”. Most of these folks would take the same pictures of their girlfriend or grandchildren even if you give them a X-Pro-2000. If I have to judge from what I see published by many, very few indeed need an upgrade compared to the X-Pro-1 which they have.

there are several threads already, some with pictures, about the performance of the 60mm like this: http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/68-fx-60mm-24-macro/ There are also threads about adapting manual focus classical lenses to Fuji cameras http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/895-old-school-macro-lenses/ People use, as you can see in the many examples, both with proficiency en very good results. In my opinion the 60mm is a pice of kit which I wouldn’t miss despite owning other macro lenses. By the way both the 60mm and the Pentax 100mm macro that I own don’t deliver more that 1:2 reproduction ratio, the 1:1, is, in my opinion a red herring, you can easily use an additional tube if you really need it or crop and have still plenty to print!

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The problems to make such a rectilinear lens ( and still be affordable ) are very serious and the question is always whether the investment wouldn’t come to such a cost in terms of quality and money that the results of de-fishing the image made with a fish eye with a program which would use all of the frame wouldn’t make it cheaper and not worse.

ok, then it might be very well the next 31st of February then...

we shall see, in the meantime sing and humm Yes I would, If I could, I surely would........

well the 12mm samyang gives a run for the money compared to the Zeiss ( which is a lens communicating with the camera) ........so...........

Well, they will have to do exceptionally well if the want to compete with the Samyang. Seen that the autofocus here is completely useless the only added bonus would be a serious correction of the natural fall-off and a better anti-reflections treatment, but I seriously doubt that image quality could be improved in terms of resolution spectacular (for this kind of lens) at f8 http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/696-fuji-fisheye/?hl=samyang