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Look at Patricks screenshot, it got all the information there were. Seems like face detection in OVF Mode. Don't yet know what the yellow lines suggest. I guess those are the PDAF area which would imply face detection and pdaf working together. All in all some very nice improvements

I'd go for this one too. 16 and 90 due to WR and producing incredible shots The 35mm as small, light walk around lens.

according to Fujifilm they have their own designs and someone is manufacturing it to their specs. About the framerate: some Oly OMDs could increase the refresh rate from 60 to 120hz (but with some drawback) I think this is the first time we really see some improvements regarding this. And together with the synced sensor (it's column by column read and transferred to the EVF, so the lag is only 0.005sec) and a faster read out of the sensor I think we will see some incredible EVF improvements. Less lag and probably nearly no blackout. Fuji has always had some of the best viewfinders (not just the specs but everything from color calibration, to synchronisation, etc.) and I think they keep on improving. Personally I don't think we will see a 4k EVF in the X-Pro2 (due to the hybrid Viewfinder a magnification like the X-T1 would be a technological master piece - probably even impossible at it's current size, thus you don't need that many pixels) But I think they will push boundaries with the T2 again.

about D5500: the "old" IMX193 (used widely) this (and the D7200) show, how good sensors have become (and taking the NX1 into consideration too one will see how little you gain from huge technological advantages) edit: Patrick: did you miss the WCL-X70? ^^

I know there were a lot of speculations about the D7200s sensor, but since Chipworks did their magic, it's certain: it's a Toshiba sensor. Don't know what is in the Pentax K3II, but I don't think the IMX271 is being used yet. (With many fps - fast read out, this thing looks perfect for an mirrorless camera!) About the 42MP in the A7R II. That one is pretty easy. It's all about video. In super35 mode they get 5K, which they downsample to 4k. And with full sensor readout (video is 16:9 instead of 3:2) they get around 34MP (which is 8K) and with 2x2 pixel binning this comes down to 4k in a nearly perfect way. This would not be possible with 36MP and with 50MP you would end up with 8.5K, which probably would be an Pain in the A** to downsample (or it would introduce some weird crop factor for video)

No. There is no IMX271 in any Nikon yet. The D7200 sensor you are talking about is a Toshiba design (D7100 sensor with improvements). But that's another point many don't consider: smal changes made a good sensor (with some problems) outstandinig It's not only that. On top of the basic sensor, there are many things like black light shielding CFA and many others. Nikon is said to have improved there with the D5 massively. Now guess, who is one of the leaders in this area and where nearly every manufacturer is getting their CFAs (and other stuff from) Then there are the microlenses. The NEX-7 is an perfect example how they can ruin your "whole sensor". As said the electronics are important and so is the processor. The whole image processing pipeline is too complex to say: Camera A has the same basic sensor as Camera B, so their picture quality must be the same. Your example of the Pentax and Phase One shows just that (thanks for that, haven't seen that yet) That's due to the dual conversion gain Here I have to disagree. With todays pixel pitch, micro lenses, light pipes etc. the difference in fill factor seems to be really small. Furthermore you would need to move to Exmor RS (stacked BSI) to really get decrease the gaps dramatically. I see two reasons why Sony moved to BSI: 1. marketing. They want to push their sensor customers (this is Sony devices soon to be Sony Semiconductor Solutions customers) to a higher end sensor, which is probably a lot more expansive (actually this is the same, what camera manufactures are doing with us/the customers. Move them to the more expansive high end). 2. problems. The A7 mount has a small mount diameter. Together with the short flange distance this leads to some problems. Modern sensors don't like rays coming in in an angle. Not. One. Bit! ( Image side near telecentric lens design gets really hard so they either have to sacrifice image quality, or build huge, expansive lenses. The A7r showed problems with reduces sharpness in the corners and color shifts (both probably introduced due to those angled rays). The BSI sensor with different micro lenses allows much more angled rays, eliminating most of those problems. So in fact the A7r II sensor is (more or less) a fix, with some tiny improvements. And Sony is selling it not as that, but as huge improvement and increased prices too. And people are going for it (just take a look in the comments on FR and you will see how many want BSI without even knowing what this would mean exactly) Nice marketing there Sony! (BSI of course has some advantages a smaller process helps too. With even smaller pixels BSI will get more relevant, but for now I think it's mostly marketing)

I don't think the amount of autofocus points tells us anything 1. there is no version of the IMX071 with phase detection other than the X-Trans II (which would suggest with your arguing that it's not a IMX071 ) 2. the amount of AF points is software/firmware based. the rest is some good write up (with a lot of speculation) Short answer: I wouldn't expect there to be miracles. The 42MP BSI sensor performs just slightly better then the D810 (which is probably based on some 2010! design). Most of the "we must have BSI" trend is just marketing. Real world differences are tiny. Even if they managed to keep noise the same (at the same magnification not in 100% crop this is!) - the benefits would probably be not as big as they might seem. While Fuji has some outstanding glas, Sony is lacking behind and diffraction isn't too far out either.

I think most X-Pro2 buyer couldn't care less about the Sony. Sure, more megapixel is always better (and the A6000 seems to have sold really good), but those are cameras build around it's specs, nothing more. Would I like to see some Uber Sensor in the Fuji? Yes, why not. Do I need one? Hell no. I mean - how large do you really print to need that much resolution? Furthermore you would need the best glas available (sorry Sony, you're out on this one ) and a tripod with you, to get the best image quality.

about ISOless (hate that word ). Sure, Canons are ISOless too at some point. The interesting thing about Dual Gain is, that it behaves like "two stage isoless" And looking at Sony cameras that use the same sensor as others do, I would love to see Nikons (or Fujis) go on this. about the "knowing soon enough". Christmas is coming (Winter not yet), but the real christmas seems to come in January. All the small things rumoured about the X-Pro2 sound really interesting, let's see if that goes for the sensor too

Or go for state-of-the-art non ISOless sensors. Both the A7RII and A7S show, that ISOless can be useful but doesn't automatically mean superior low light performance. Hell - I am not even sure, that the upcoming Fuji sensors will be isoless!

... and the Canon 100-400 II is about 2000€. That would make it $3050 canadian. But let's wait and see how it performs. If I had to guess I'd say it will be outstanding (like all the lenses from this year were)

that's really hilarious

Probably reviewing the X-Pro2 already

Guess the different IS modes. Stabilisation always on and stabilised only when shooting.

No IBIS? OMG!!!!111111oneoneeleven Would be nice, but let's be honest: the X-Pro is (after the Leica M) probably the most pure camera that put's "photography over technology". I love how on the rumors page everyone is raging and complaining. I always thought that no IBIS on the Pro2 is a given.

Thing is: there is so much more than portrait you can do with 135mm. It opens up new perspectives. Landscape, Street - just keep an open mind. And if you give this a try - the 90mm Fujinon is probably the 135mm (FoV) lens to get. Incredibly sharp, no matter if wide open or stopped down. Same goes for contrast. And optical aberrations are more or less none existing. Furthermore it focuses fast and is weather resistent? And for all those who might think, that all those nice numbers (incredible MTFs, no aberrations) mean just another sterile lens - nope. The 90mm has character - the bokeh ist contrast rich and what could be described as near perfection.

There are different ways to compression. Probably one of the most reasonable (I think both Canon and Nikon use similar ideas) is lossless JPEG. But don't think of this like the jpg image your camera also produces. In short: you don't save every pixels exact values, but only the difference to the onces next to it. And since many pixels are pretty similar to those next to it, the values are smaller

I hope I remember right, but isn't the X-T1 panel 0.5"? This would make the new one 30% bigger. I could understand, that this would be problematic with the X-E3 or even X-Pro2. But it's very likely we are looking at the panel of the X-T2 viewfinder here! If I remember right, this new panel should be capable of 120fps. With a new, fast read out sensor this could eliminate viewfinder lag and blackout. Those things (together with for example a second SD card slot or an Joystick for AF point selection) are much more important to me than ISO128000 and other stuff. (Image quality is quite good already, ease of use is more important)

That has been spreading like a virus, but there isn't even one reliable source anyone could quote on this. There isn't "Sony". Sony doesn't build cameras, Sony Imaging does. And Sony doesn't produce sensor. Sony Devices does. Those are parts of Sony that each work (mostly) on it's on. But it gets better. Everything sensor related (and Devices is just that) was/is spun out into a new company: Sony Semiconductor Solutions. And they are raising 4 billion dollars to invest. If there are any special deals for Sony Imaging, they are small - Sony SS is making the money and all the others parts now have to show, that they are profitable on their own. If not, they get axed.

@milandro I am with you on this one, but I would change the different scenarios a bit: 1. Sensor is 4K ready, but rest of hardware not (for example no 4k encoder) 2. Sensor is 4K ready, so is the rest of the Hardware, but Software is not there yet (or they are still working on it, using it as an USP for the X-T2 and then, a few weeks later, add it on the X-Pro2) 3. the Sensor is not 4K ready. here comes the thing: I listed 4 possible sensor. Out of those we know that one (IMX193) can't do it. We don't know about the A6000 sensor (IMX210 - maybe someone else got this infos), but if I had to guess I'd say it's not 4K ready. the IMX271 would probably be the most interesting, but it is hard to tell since this isn't used in any product yet. However, 19fps full sensor and SLVS-EC (which is Sony saying: this sensor is reading out incredibly fast) would suggest that it is probably capable of. The move to BSI (and stacked BSI) could mean that a completely new sensor is coming too, but I would not count on it. The A6000s sensor would probably be the most likely and would suggest no 4K coming. Probably a good sensor, but not the big thing many were hoping for

That's true but not really the point. Thing is: if they had a chance, Fuji would most likely go for a fast sensor. This would benefit them in multiple ways. Same goes for the processor. So the costs for 4K would probably be a hardware encoder, probably some licenses and a bit of software work (ok, probably a lot of software work).

(lossless Compression) - from what I have heard, this is very, very likely. That's one reason why I am more than okay with 24MP.

Fuji will most likely go for a compressed RAW. (lossless not the Sony shit) About 4K: I don't need it. Hell I don't even need 1080p or video at all. Still - I hoped that 4 would make it into the camera because of "what comes with it". 4K needs a very fast sensor read out and also a strong processor, both of which would be important for fast autofocusing and a viewfinder without blackout. Again: 4K isn't all about 4K, it's about the sensor (and processor). But let's wait and see - I am hoping that the hardware is 4K capable but it's just not there with software.

I think Fuji chose the IMX071 because it was an awesome sensor back then (and still is). Isoless and it handles image manipulation well. The alternatives back then where not really great. (the Sony exclusive NEX7 sensor had huge problems). So I guess Fuji settled for a big amount (big in Fuji terms, not Nikon/Sony ^^) to get the cost down. And when the next gen of sensors did not really deliver great improvements, it made the life easier. If one takes a close look at the last gen of 24MP sensor, the things to notice are: Pentax went from the K5II to the K3. While it was a better camera overall, the sensor had less dynamic range and was not as good/equal in noise (low light) performance. Nikon when from the D7000 to the D7000 (from a Sony to a Toshiba Sensor). While the camera was better overall and the sensor was good too, it had some huge problems: banding for example The real performance difference came with 2015: the Samsung NX1/NX500 and the Nikon D7200 (with an revised D7100 sensor). Both perform really well and offer a better package than the Fuji sensor does. Looking at all of this, Fujis decision to stay with the IMX071 (and probably get a better price on it) seems like a good idea. Personally I think, that soon after the X-Pro1 launch they realised that their AF performance was sub-par and decided to go for PDAF. So probably the X-Trans II was set, before they even knew, that the new gen 24MP sensor would not be that huge of a hit. So let's take a look into the future. While Fujifilm is (together with Panasonic) working on an organic sensor, it seems almost certain, that - for this generation - Fuji will stick with Sony sensor. There seem to be four options: 1. an older 24MP sensor. IMX193 for example. Personally I think this is pretty unlikely, readout speed and many more things would not make this sensor a good choice. 2. the A6000 sensor. It's a good sensor and it's likely, that it will perform even better than in the A6000 (the A6000 sensor should be IMX210AQL. The first letter after the numbers indicates the revision number, so it could (theoretically) be, to get a version like IMX210Bxx) 3. a sensor that is on Sonys "available" list, but has not yet been used. The IMX271 seems suited. Very fast (19fps full sensor read out, so possibly 4K capable) 4. a sensor that is not on Sonys "available" list. The A7s or A7RII sensor were not mentioned there (and still are not!) and were a "surprise". Theoretically it would be possible that Sony is working on an Exmor R (BSI) APS-C sensor. Anyway, 24MP seems to be a given - let's see what we get. Number 4 of course would be most exciting, but (except for #1) all options seem to be a good update.

If Fuji was to make a high quality 23mm f/2 pancake, who do you think would still buy the X100 line?