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Those who have been so patient and have indulged me in reading my thoughts about te pointlessness of discussing things before they do actually exist, know that I am not really and generally very charmed by this modern trend. However I couldn’t help notice that the rumors section of this very site has published what it obviously believes to be the new and yet again reformed road map for the Fuji lenses to come and it has included an XF 8mm lens ( the picture is so tiny that it actually might not be the one of this particular lens but just a black undefined lens shape). It is set to be introduced in December 2017 ( whatever these things are worth because I’ve grown to think that indications on things like this are generally very imprecise especially when things are yet to materialize) This got me curious more than anything else on the road map because this was a sudden and unexpected addition since all the rest was talked about before but I don’t seem to recall ever any reference to this particular focal length. Would this be a fish-eye or an incredibly wide, angle lens? Probably, at this stage there is nothing else than this, otherwise PatrickFR would have been all too eager to tell us some more, but I thought of asking anyway. If this is a fisheye I don’t think I would be tempted to part with my Samyang which gets already very little use as it is but I am very happy with. I bought that one second hand (first series of the 2.8 type) and I am very happy with it, nevertheless I’d like to see it head to head with the Fuji.

I think that next week's update will be of a minor strictly technical nature to make the bodies suitable to the lenses to come ( especially the 35 which is already being shipped to beta testers) for all the cameras of the system and since it hasn’t been preceded by a rain of rumors it will be unlikely to be the promised one where the AF functions of the X-E2 might be updated, so, don’t be disappointed, yet, save that for Xmas when under the tre you might find what you are looking for or not.

Lucky natural sons and daughters of unmarried parents .

Nice test. there is a definite loss of resolution at the edges (very visible in the test shots here http://www.lenstip.com/456.12-Lens_review-Fujifilm_Fujinon_XF_35_mm_f_2_R_WR_Sample_shots.html)

Apparently, as I’ve just read on the rumors side of this forum, aside for making cameras suitable to be used with the new lenses or tele converters to come ( which some prefer to abbreviate in TC just in case, like me, you were wondering what these beats were... ) the X-T1 will be receiving the possibility to convert the film button into an FN button ( function button to which you can assign an arbitrary function). http://www.fujirumors.com Hardly a revolution but could be of some use to someone, I will have to think of whether I am missing one such button as for now, since I do not film with my camera, I have disabled that button but I suppose I might consider this. Other than that there are no rumors involving this update so, should anything else come it will be a surprise, which come to think of it, before rumors site ever existed almost all new things on the market always were but then again, if there wouldn’t be rumors so many people wouldn’t know what to talk and write about, no?

Of course we will know the content of the update only when it will be released. Since it hasn’t been introduced and anticipated with a great deal of leaks or rumors ( as we saw with the great AF revolution which didn’t really happen) about its content I am guessing that this is strictly a necessary technical update. I am not holding my breath or stay up late to wait for it. I might even decide not to install it at all if it turns out that the mountain has given birth to a mouse.

Well Sharana, it is generally easier to find things when you know their name or at least what they are before you look for them . So in other words, it is easy to find something if you know what you are looking for. Underwater, generally, there is little to no use for long focal lenses, in fact short is the word, so my guess it is that you won’t ever find a case for the 18-135mm but weirder things are known to have happened. The Meikon is for the 18-55mm. However the Meikon is not expensive , about €250.

Very! Especially if you don’t know what to do with $425 and they are burning a hole in your pocket. Since I already own it, I think I’ll stick with my simpler ( only 9º instead of 15º) kipon tilt adapter and any M42 lens that I might want to put on it. At the moment I have 4 lenses and have spent half of that money. read all about it here http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/866-kipon-tilt-adapter-would-you-please-show-some-of-your-images/

Unfortunately the camera that many would really need for this kind of applications, and it is no longer been made, is a camera which is compact, completely waterproof, usable underwater and in air, and allows at least a limited amount of interchangeable lenses. Something like the much missed Nikonos. The camera evolved from the original “ Calypso “ a special camera made originally by the French Spirotechnique and designed by the Belgian Jean de Wouters for Jacques Cousteau and his crew and it was later absorbed and further evolved by Nikon into the Nikonos. clumsy though it is, if someone has a X-T1 and wants to use it under heavy rain conditions and not risk his camera they might use the cheap Meikon underwater case or the more technical and expensive Nauticam.

My pleasure Sharana. We are all different and have different needs for different cameras and some people don’t even need a camera , If you are not going to use it under water you can get away with a very much cheaper model. I would mostly use it under water therefore that would be for me the most important point.

well, there are many ways to do may things, as least as many as there are people out there. Diving with a large case like the Meikon is a very different commitment. I’d rather have a compact camera and dive free of all the hustle and bustle, than having the bulk of a case with me. I rather dive for the sake of diving than for documentary purposes though. @https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gDx2Hua_Og @https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1llHxR_RRs

Cheers, despite the Fuji love, the Nikon coolpix aw 130 outperforms, and by quite a bit in terms of depth, even the best of the Fuji underwater compacts the XP 80 which only reaches 17,5m. 30m maximum is a good depth for most people with advanced open water diving experience. A camera like this gives you a decent safety extra even if you are not normally diving that deep because your divemaster might decide that day to dive past 15m and then, what are you going to do? Risk your camera or leave it on the surface? I can guarantee you that in places like the Red Sea, unless you are doing introduction dives or snorkeling only, you will always dive past 15m.

more than just that............... they they are really underwater cameras although their sensor is very small at the maximum depth much less than Canon

Bearing in mind that I have a X-T1 and not a X pro 1, in the menu you have an ISO setting where you can set the maximum ceiling of ISO sensitivity to which the camera would operate ( in my case this applies to full automatic mode). I suppose that yours is set to 1600 ISO ( in my camera things are different I think, because I have an ISO dial ) therefore disabling the possibility to go any higher. If you go in that menu and bring it up to 6400 you should be able vary the ISO sensitivity up to that level.

but they read you mind you wanted to! Very nice and larger pics.

Obviously very interesting review and better pictures than any other taken with this lens that I’ve seen before on line ( although it would have been nicer to have at least some comparative shots and larger pictures to see better what this lens can do). The two points of improvement: operating noise and focussing speed seem to have been addressed although the second still has some hunting in low light and low contrast but my educated guess is that this is more a feature of the camera rather than the lens. There are limits to what this senso can do and they seem to be the bottleneck which both hardware and software have found, at least, so far. Possibly this is as far as the current top camera autofocus features can be taken and my guess is that we won’t see any improvement before the next generation of X cameras will hit the market. The review doesn’t linger on too much the WR qualities of this lens. It is nice to have as a feature but only if coupled to a WR camera and even there the definition of what kind of resistance and against what exactly it resists varies from a very cautious “ dampness “ to resisting tropical forest rains. Most of us will never need to find out which is which.

always a good idea to do something like that in China since they will copy that, but it doesn’t mean that things are accelerating they are just taking a preemptive measure to avoid being caught short when time comes. This is a simple administrative act.

if you re-read the post you see that you got the sequence of complaints wrong. I was the first to complain about its looks and got the usual flack for simply giving my opinion ( that the lens looks ugly is not “ hate” just my view, isn’t a forum a place where people discuss their views?) which, according to some one shouldn’t voice.. . (why?). So I can’t complain about the looks but they can complain about me complaining? These are the two new lens hoods, each giving a completely different look to the lens The looks of the lens with the larger of the two hoods are radically improved even on the X-T1, so I have no more complaints about its look in this configuration. The looks with the small lens hood are not as nice, in fact I find it positively ugly ( my opinion) obviously this was made necessary from the need to not be in the way of the optical viewfinder on the X-Pro-2 to come

does this happen in full auto mode only or in other modes too?

I did stay on topic, as formulated by OP, which is comparing lens quality not systems. If you compare prints you are comparing more than the optical quality alone. Which is nothing different from many comparisons on line, all comparing, in my view, apples to oranges. http://leicarumors.com/2012/04/11/quick-leica-m9-vs-fuji-x-pro1-image-comparison.aspx/ http://www.frankdoorhof.com/site/2013/08/fujifilm-x-e1-vs-leica-m9/ http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/10/03/crazy-comparison-leica-m-240-fuji-x-m1-and-panasonic-gx7-part-1/ I showed no hostility towards your digressing. What you call splitting hairs I call reasoning. Politely disagreeing with each other is part of the process and the essential nature of a forum.

there is variation even among the same types. I have the older one but I have no reason to suppose that it is any different ( as in better than) from the new one which is optically identical.

Then the question has to arise, in order to agree or deny you service under guarantee, how would they know what you have exactly done with it?

...which, ironically, is a bit like complaining about the people complaining don’t you think? The one you do is also a complaint for its own sake since if you don’t wish to complain what does it matter to you if others do? I am all for the new lens and I have no set ideas on whether it will be better, just as good or not. I even like its looks (on the X-T10 better than the X-T1 now that I’ve seen it mouthed on the camera) with a definite preference for the silver version on a silver body. The black version of the lens on the X-T1 body that I’ve found on line in that picture looks ugly to me. In this picture looks just a little better but it is obvious( to me) that the aesthetics of this lens weren’t based on it being the ideal companion for the X-T1 Of course ugly might be the new beautiful!

So, it comes down to compare the output of the entire systems. You seem to have found your answer in a comparative trial showing that Fuji prints are preferred over those made by Leica files. Whether that is true or not or universally true or not it will need to be confirmed. But this is not what OP asked.