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i love the 14mm and dont consider it as clinical in character as some   , its pin sharp but with a filmic render imho... the love fo the 35 mmm1.4 is well placed   its quite a special lens and i use it frequently 
 
i do love my 56mm 1.2 1nd also the kit zoom  18-55 2.8-4.... my favorite kit zoom anywhere ever ... unequaled by anyone 
a n y o n e
 
the 55 200 is kind of sweet too

i like fuji bodies , my 2 favorite being  the xe2 and x30...i have less fun with my xpro2 , and im very fond of my x100s\x100 also,the problems mentioned are found in all makers cameras  nikon canon olympus etc alll have their share of issues 
 
but the fuji bodies , in spite of somewhat illogical menus  have controls schemes i consider essential with ss and aperture dials that are almost unique in the industry .they have  quality evfs and styling and superior build quality ,materials  and heritage [ japanese construction] at an affordable cost..... this synergy is unique  in the industry
 
the quality lenses .... best kit lens in history.... build and optics is great too... legacy lens friendliness...yes 
but  the lenses would mean less to me on a sony body or canikon  plastic amorphous  meteorite  formfactor etc.
 
 the fuji body and lens pairing is close to ideal , as far as im concerned 

lots of good info , but i cannot believe  fuji will not have an enthusiast zoom compact with an evf.....its unthinkable to me 
 
my point isnt about sentimentality but rather a market segment fuji has yet to dive into that panny sony nikon and canon all explore
 
i inch compacts
 
fuji has distinguished itself in the enthusiast sector  part of that corporate mentality and direction is to serve one of the few remaining  categories of cameras ,.....the enthusiast zoom compact   ... i believe fuji will continue to offer a counterpoint to cameras like the sony i inch compacts , now in their 5th iteration 

naked cowboys with trumps painted on the back, cops looking like storm troopers... yup that my new york all right

i too would love ibis in the fuji bodies .... its true one cant have everything , i dont miss touchscreens , but fast primes like the 56 1.2 etc could benefit with some ois love  if fuji persists in no ibis
 
i love fuji too but often fuji stays home and the pen f comes out to play with a nikkor w 50 1.4 or a 105 2.5 and a speedbooster xl that adds 1 1\3 stops of light and bokeh action.... with the excellent ibis of the pen   the fuji cant touch it for available light work  in darkened conditions 

thats unfortunate .... ive got dirty contact issues with all my fuji cameras ,  it sounds like extra cleaning  with alcohol   ans a small wooden stick  on the battery and  camera contacts might have been the remedy  , the celluose  of the wood stick is very mildly
abrasive  scouring away oxidation 
 
xe1 xe2 xpro2 x20 x30

agreed  ..... i love my x30    its   so useful small with great iq for its sensor
 
 
i love the litttle bastard

i began this thread as the discussion of an experiment for the use of a pair 18650  lithium rechargable for a  extended battery  for all day shooting possibly 2 day shooting with alll day camera on and lots of review   chimping  and in camera raw processing ..., a benefit , in my eyes  
 
and correcting the problem of an under-powered system battery  the np 126.....
 
i dont know why this has devolved into the merits  of economical shooting  and the criticism of shooting a lot of images ..... there is no   "right "  way to shoot   some might try to treat a digital apsc  as a view camera and shoot 2 images   and some might  blast a series of  30 shots during  a  moment of intense  sports action multiple times during the day   and the rest of the faithful something in between  slow and methodical is something i enjoy  i also like to shoot high speed for  action shots sometimes 
 
heres a simple truth to wrap your head around:   canon and nikon and pentax slr batteries  are  1800   1900 mah  [7.2 to 7.4v]
 power cells.... close to double the typical mirrorless cell   which i believe to be  the most valid criticism   of mirrorless in general  by those considering a switch. 
 
the backpack solar array is interesting   but  im sure  my homemade   battery base  will work fine  while adding  less than 1\2 inch to the base of my   x pro 2 ... the highly rated nitecores   are SAFE, PROTECTED, and  fully compliant with modern safety battery standards ,,, something i cannot claim for aftermarket np 126   china  cells which i now use ........ i will not buy  60 dollar fuji np126 cells.
 
i intend to do a real world test on the x pro 2  [ not the xa1 again ]  to see how long they last  in my regular usage patterns  [ i use single shot  with chimping and in camera raw processing mostly  ].
 
 i suspect  1 to 2 days shooting   keeping 5 fuji batteries  or 3 at all times  and making sure the charge is full
is a chore id sooner not do

well i know many users of the x pro 2 wish it had a larger capacity  battery than the np 126 ... i certainly do .
 
recently i got the idea to try using off the shelf large capacity batteries designed for high drain applications and decided on the well trusted 18650 which look like a AA battery on steroids  
 
18650  are 18mm diam.    65mm in length  and o shape in cross section  they vary wildly in quality  due to cheap chinese imports and bootlegs ...but a trusted retailer can supply good ones for about 10 - 15 usd each  thy vary in mah from about  2000 to 3400 mah and all output about 3.7 volts [ mine tested 4.14 and 4.19 on 2 cells ] i used new nitecores x2  [3200mh] 
 
my first adapted battery is experimental  ...2 nitecores 18650  in series 3.7v x 2 for 7.4 volts   the plastic shell of an expired aftermarket battery  some speaker wire  and surgical tape [clear]
i purchased a new xa1 on craigslist for 100 dollars  and inserted the battery shell with the proper polarity wires in place it was tight   but it closed up nicely with the wires exiting the compartment at the tabbed corner,,,  the batteries and wire leads boud up together as tightly as possible  both were 100 % charged
 
i didnt want to risk my x pro 2 or xe2... so the guinea pig  was the xa1 with a pentax 50mm 1.7 legacy lens in m mode 
 
the test 
 
i turned on the camera and  was delighted  to see the LCD panel lit and ready  
 
first part  200 shots with flash with pauses for simulated  chimping scrolling enlarging  the 1000  shots 
high speed the some chimping  another 100 flash shots   another 1000 high speed shots ect etc etc also tried various other modes     various bracketing  single  burst multi   and so on . 
 
finall tally 10,070 shots  lots of chimping and reviewing   500 flash shot  and i was tired   2 hours in i decided to see how much juice  remained 
 
the nitecore charger reported the 2 batteries has 83 and 84 percent power remaining  after the test
the xa2 never showed the battery below full.
 
before the test the 2 batteries reported  about 4.14 v after test 3.97..... i estimate the cells could easily 
50,000 to 60,000 shots with many hours of chimping  the camera got a little warm after about 5000 shots   but the batteries remains cool the whole test
 
im very please d with this first test .....thoughts anyone 
 
on to a real battery pack for my x pro 2...........

while i share your enthusiasm for an xe2 successor .....i must add two provisos to your vision.... 
 
firstly i do not understand why it needs to look like a  baby xpro model , keeping the body the same as or nearly the same as the xe1 xe2 xe2s bodies allows fuji much more simplicity and cost savings over tooling for a new body form increasing the likelyhood of it being produced  where margins may be thin.........secondly , a inbuilt flash is absolutely useful and desirable in a camera .....any camera,  for at least these  these  few reasons 
 
~ for fill flash in daylight to make shadows less harsh....{.yes its weak   but its usable up to 1\250 [ beyond 180 on mine  ] at iso 100 with high f stops almost always helpful }
 
~ for emergency flash ...  some flash is better than no flash if you dont have a mounted flash and have no other recourse .
 
~ for triggering off camera  flashes  ....highly useful  multiple tiny slaves  can be a blast    ....try it
 
In my world  where just having Fuji  produce it is of  major  importance ....i would want fuji to  make these improvements 
 
the 24 mp sensor of course  
latest process engine  
fastest  processor   biggest  buffer...manageable 
change algorithms for noise reduction  to end the "waxy skin " phenomenon 
higher res evf
 
.   and icing on the cake would be a updated  lcd panel  and a higher GN for the inbuilt flash 
 
that would make me happy 

ive used the nikon 35mm f2 ais with the first speed booster  it gains a stop of light and a full frame bokeh signature ....its not nearly as sharp as the fuji 23 ... but it gets the job done and has a lovely old school render ...its a little soft in the corners   but  i like it just the same 

Hi Paul, I think it has to be a JPEG engine issue only, if the workaround of shoot RAW at -2 EXP COMP, and then push-processing 2 stops in-camera eliminates the problem completely.
 
What the workaround does is basically apply Fuji ISO 1600 NR, to ISO 6400 images. And the resultant JPEG's looks absolutely fine. It's possible that they might have incrementally more noise than first-gen cameras due to different sensor, but even if so, that's not what people are complaining about- Fuji JPEG high-ISO noise looks incredibly organic- very fine with little blotchiness or harsh digital-looking artifacts, or chroma noise.
 
Does the X-A1 or X-M1 have first or second gen XTrans sensor? Because they also have the waxy skin effect.

Chrisgilesimages, I'm older than you, and started my career in photography in 1975, so I remember film well... but.... Canon, Nikon, Sony and others now produce cameras that go up to over 50k ISO, and although they produce grainy images, which is to be expected, none of them produce the wax effect.  The wax effect is exclusive to Fuji... perhaps they've even patented it... but if all the other manufacturers can avoid the waxing, then so can Fuji.  Technology has moved on, and we make use of it.  We can now shoot in the dark with most cameras and smartphones, but Fuji is the only one that has wax effect.
 
Just a thought, maybe Fuji waxes because it's aimed at the Brazilian market :D

well i think the answers been said
 
i currently enjoy my xe1 and xe2 black bodies with latest firmware with many lenses both legacy and native fuji....... but by far my best legacy experience  is reusing ....with adapters my excellent contax g system lenses .......the   incredibly sharp, yet bokeh beautiful 
45mm f2 planar,   and lovely 90mm 2.8 sonnar...
 
 
i find them both  better than any Leica or cosina voigtlander i also love and use .    i us an inexpensive  dedicated adapter for each which stays with the lens   the 3 mf options regular enlarger   focus peaking and digital split image all offer value in different situations  
 
im a huge fan of contax lenses  on fuji rangefinder styled bodies especially the  xe2 obviously .....the beautiful build quality , and optical excellence and the tactile excellence of the user experience are  truly  a great enjoyment  and photographic benefit to me.
 
 
im not a fan of SLR styled Fuji  as excellent as they are.  the xe2 s 16mp sensor is aging yes   but its capable of astounding files with class leading iso and quality for its mp rating imho ....lastly the lenses compact  build balances beautifully and gracefully on the fuji body in a manner that no native fuji lens does ,....sadly 
 
 
cheers

well i think the answers been said
 
i currently enjoy my xe1 and xe2 black bodies with latest firmware with many lenses both legacy and native fuji....... but by far my best legacy experience  is reusing ....with adapters my excellent contax g system lenses .......the   incredibly sharp, yet bokeh beautiful 
45mm f2 planar,   and lovely 90mm 2.8 sonnar...
 
 
i find them both  better than any Leica or cosina voigtlander i also love and use .    i us an inexpensive  dedicated adapter for each which stays with the lens   the 3 mf options regular enlarger   focus peaking and digital split image all offer value in different situations  
 
im a huge fan of contax lenses  on fuji rangefinder styled bodies especially the  xe2 obviously .....the beautiful build quality , and optical excellence and the tactile excellence of the user experience are  truly  a great enjoyment  and photographic benefit to me.
 
 
im not a fan of SLR styled Fuji  as excellent as they are.  the xe2 s 16mp sensor is aging yes   but its capable of astounding files with class leading iso and quality for its mp rating imho ....lastly the lenses compact  build balances beautifully and gracefully on the fuji body in a manner that no native fuji lens does ,....sadly 
 
 
cheers

well i think the answers been said
 
i currently enjoy my xe1 and xe2 black bodies with latest firmware with many lenses both legacy and native fuji....... but by far my best legacy experience  is reusing ....with adapters my excellent contax g system lenses .......the   incredibly sharp, yet bokeh beautiful 
45mm f2 planar,   and lovely 90mm 2.8 sonnar...
 
 
i find them both  better than any Leica or cosina voigtlander i also love and use .    i us an inexpensive  dedicated adapter for each which stays with the lens   the 3 mf options regular enlarger   focus peaking and digital split image all offer value in different situations  
 
im a huge fan of contax lenses  on fuji rangefinder styled bodies especially the  xe2 obviously .....the beautiful build quality , and optical excellence and the tactile excellence of the user experience are  truly  a great enjoyment  and photographic benefit to me.
 
 
im not a fan of SLR styled Fuji  as excellent as they are.  the xe2 s 16mp sensor is aging yes   but its capable of astounding files with class leading iso and quality for its mp rating imho ....lastly the lenses compact  build balances beautifully and gracefully on the fuji body in a manner that no native fuji lens does ,....sadly 
 
 
cheers