Seth777

Not interested. Wanna more shiny little toys? Go buy Olympus. Or Sony. Or something. Who needs EVF on X100...?
 
What I really want is reassignable buttons on my ol' trusted X100S I travelled the world with. And maybe little faster AF (for my little kids). And YES, oh-so-highly-praised Classic Chrome. Because it's so freaking authentically X100S-ish.
 
I think that X100S is perfectly "current" model because of the same sensor, processor and IQ as on the X100T. The core is the same, the image is the same and you know what? THIS is really important. This is what makes Fuji a Fuji.
 
BTW, I preordered X-T10 with a couple of lens but I don't plan to sell X100S yet. There is some sort of emotional connection I guess. Y'know, the places we travelled, the people we shoot met   I will not call it "love" but X100S surely an extraordinary product and I feel it still has unreleased potential.
 
Well, maybe upgrading X100S is bad for business. I don't know. And nobody knows for sure. But what I know is that Fuji succeeded in building the entire army of "cult-o'-Fuji" followers. The remarkable achievment only a few global companies capable of. But "loyalty" is not about tech specs, prices and figures. It's all about emotions. Maybe there is no logical explanation to upgrade X100S after release of X100T. But it's just right to do so. To make an already great product even better. To make it classic.

You have a rather defensible opinion, it makes sense.
 
I agree with pretty much everything you say, and also feel that Fuji "probably is a bit random in how they perform kaizen".
 
Looks like they are putting a bit of this here, a bit of that here, ah well we forgot this one let's put this but not that, suddenly nothing more, it's not clear for the customers at all (don't think it's really clear for them either), and probably generates some frustration I can understand that. Albeit for me if they don't break anything and keep adding stuff until no more is given I'm perfectly fine, but I can understand it.
 
The line of conduct you propose is maybe a bit simple (all identical hardware same FW) but would clear things up.

I totally agree with you that some people should show humility! I have a x-t1 and have all the latest bells and whistles. But it also reminds me that my x100s isn't reaching its full potential.  
Fuji probably is a bit random in how they perform kaizen, no sense of direction. It feels like they made a mistake with the x100s and quickly replaced it with the x100t. In my opinion the managers should have decided early on, that all camera's of the same generation (EXRI, XTransI and EXRII,XTransII) should have the same FW features. With the obvious exception of hardware limitations (evf resolution, fixed lens vs ilc, wifi, button layout etc) this makes sense to me as a business model.
 
Apple also does it with its software. They could choose to not upgrade the software of older models of iPhone/macs. But instead it made more sense to continually improve their products and therefore apple has been growing even more. The software in every product is essentially the same, the hardware makes the difference. People should be able to choose between camera's not because of software features but hardware.
 
This forum and topic is just a way for some of us to vent frustration and/or give our opinion.

That's a good point!
 
But I'd like to have the same color profiles in all my Fuji cameras. And maybe larger (less compressed) jpegs - the same as in my future X-T10. It makes sense to have the same image standards in all devices (much easier post-processing, smoother workflow, easy to replace, etc.).

Who said I don't like Fuji? Way to elude the debate.
 
I've been there too, wishing things for my X-E1. Wondering weeks long if I shouldn't have bought an X-E2 because I really wanted CC.
 
Then I took a good breath and went out to make pictures, and wondering about the next one, constantly looking for content, colours and light instead of wondering how the camera could be better.
 
I modified the raw files of my best ones to make them look like they are from an X-T1 and use the silkypix CC profile on them. That did not change the content, nor anything of importance. It could be nice to give the same look to all of my pictures instead of using pro neg Hi (or Std inside often) but I'd have shitty skin tones. There are much better things to worry about, like how to become a better photographer.

I used the X-T10 yesterday with nearly every lens Fuji has out. (No, the 90mm was not available.) As someone with an X-T1 (and X100S) looking for a second body, I was thinking about either a second hand X-T1 or a brand new X-T10. After using it, I've put in my pre-order for the X-T10. If I had no existing Fuji cameras, the X-T10 is still what I'd go for. If a used X-T1 doesn't appeal to you then the X-T10 is unquestionably the way to go; 50% of the price and, to me, 95% of the performance. If money is no object to you then the X-T1 still is the better camera, obviously.

I really didn't think I'd like the T10, but using it I found several things to like over getting another X-T1:
- The more rubbery covering makes it easier to hold with one hand, even though it's a smaller unit. I noticed this especially when using the tilt screen to take a shot overhead.
- The dials seem harder to accidentally knock, even though they don't seem to have any way of locking. They're just that little bit smaller and out of the way.
- It feels better proportioned for the smaller lenses like the 14mm, 60mm, 27mm and 18-55.
- Though the EVF is noticably smaller, it's a tiny bit nicer than the X-E2's EVF and when I pointed it towards dark areas, I felt it looked nicer than the X-T1's. By having the same resolution and refresh rate but scaled down, it actually looks smoother.

Conversely, there were a couple of things which did make me hesitate, and the X-T1 still does better:
- Assigning an unmarked function dial to ISO is one action slower and not quite as nice to use as the ISO dial of the X-T1.
- The EVF of the X-T1 obviously is much larger and in normal light and bright light, the X-T10's doesn't remotely compare.
- The X-T10 started to feel very slightly unbalanced with the 16m and 56mm lenses and was totally ridiculous with the 50-140. (But even the X-T1 feels too small compared to the 50-140.) The 90mm wasn't there to try, but I'm sure it will dwarf the X-T10, too.
- The X-T10 definitely does look cheaper. There's no getting around it, it's got much more plastic and rubber and looks like a toy when you hold it next to a graphite silver X-T1.

I decided to put an order in for the X-T10 because, as a second body, saving a little size and weight is nice and the differences in build quality, EVF and dials don't bother me, considering how I'll be using it.
If I didn't have the X-T1, I'd probably still buy the X-T10 because the difference in price is almost the same as a lens, and that is what I would suggest for you. You're getting virtually the same camera—same sensor, same AF, same tilt screen—for half the price. Buy an X-T10 and a 16mm, 23mm or 56mm lens for almost the same price the X-T1 body alone will cost. In fact I'm pretty sure you'll be able to buy the X-T10 and the 35mm f/1.4 for the exact same price as an X-T1.
If you'd buy a used X-T1, that evens things out a bit but the X-T10 is still cheaper and now I know how similar they are, I'd still suggest you save money and get the X-T10.
If you can easily afford an X-T1 and every lens you want without thinking twice then just go for the X-T1. It is a nicer camera, it's just not twice-the-price-nice if you want to be at all smart with your money.

I normally use RAW + JPEG for all of my work, and the JPEG is only to enable me to check a higher resolution preview on back of camera.
 
That said, I've had several occasions recently where I've had terrible moire on grooms' suits, and I've found the jpegs have handled it better than lightroom.
 
The last two days I've been shooting an equestrian event - 700+ riders at an average of 8 frames per jump in consistent light. For the first time ever I shot in JPEG only and I'm delighted with the results. Sure I won't switch to JPEG only for my weddings, but (excuse the pun) it's horses for courses - this has saved me hours of uploading and processing time, for no gain.
 
Personally I'm thankful for the gorgeous Fuji Jpegs - I never would have used jpegs from my 1Dx or 5D IIIs - I never could get them to look as good as the default Fuji output.