Pathpix
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Fuji is not in the habit of answering pleas, prayers, queries on this forum or elsewhere.
What a shame when there is a such an obvious design flaw involved (btw "pleas" and "queries" I understand, but "prayers" - don't believe in that rubbish)
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Yes, it is a curse ( and I did my bit to warn others ! )
http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/4391-advanced-filter-disaster-%E2%80%93-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/
Interesting potential remedy suggested but its unclear what else will be affected.
Wouldn't it be great if a Firmware update gave us the ability to disable the Advanced Filter simply ?
Any chance, Fujifilm ?
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A few weeks after purchasing the X-Pro 2 ( my first Fujifilm camera ) and trying it out in varying situations to arrive at a set-up that suited me ( based around Aperture Priority, RAW/Jpeg, Auto ISO ), with technically impressive output, I confidently set off on a long awaited holiday to India to take some serious pictures.
A week in, I noticed a sudden change in the camera's performance and in the appearance of subsequent images displayed on the LCD screen ( grunge colours, vignetting, strobing of skies ).
The camera had switched to just shooting Jpeg in both slots and various Menu items where no longer available. As a relative novice and not realising that it had been something I'd done I carried on shooting for the rest of the trip vainly hoping that the Jpegs would be of a decent quality and that the fault was as much in the LCD display as anything.
Needless to say, it wasn't ...
I HAD SWITCHED FROM 'STILL IMAGE' TO 'ADVANCED FILTER' MODE BY ACCIDENTALLY DEPRESSING THE 'DRIVE' BUTTON ON THE BACK OF THE CAMERA
When I got home and downloaded the images to my computer the full horror of what I had done hit me. Not only had Advanced Filter been unwittingly selected but it had defaulted to the 'Toy Camera' option – just about the worst option in the list IMHO ( not that I'd ever be interested in using any of these filters ).
Unless I am mistaken there is no way back for these images ( there are no RAW files ). I've tried to rescue some in PS by removing Colour Cast, Desaturating, Cropping, and Cloning, but there are limits to the extent the damage can be hidden.
Plea to Fuji – make the default the LEAST OBTRUSIVE filter when Advanced Filters are selected, deliberately or otherwise
Plea to other new Xpro2 users - be careful and watch for with this ( its worse than the Exp Comp dial curse that is widely reported – at least if you shoot RAW you can remedy that one ) ….
Time to crawl away and cry …...........
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Thanks Chucktin, Opteron & adzman808. Don't think I'll be using UHSII - as I understand it they are far faster than I'll need @ upwards of 160 MB/S ?).
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I use a fast 64Gb card for RAWs and a slower 32Gb card for the JPEGs. Works perfectly!
Thanks MQAA - just what I wanted to hear !!
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I recently purchased the X-Pro2 and am really enjoying using my first mirrorless camera.
One of the things I like is the dual memory card slot feature and intend using slot1 for Raw images and slot 2 for their Jpegs – possibly using not only Smaller but also Slower cards for the Jpegs ( to save some cash ! ).
Does it matter if SD cards with different Write Speeds are used in the 2 slots. My instinct tells me to keep them the same, but does anyone have experience of using different cards simultaneously in the X-Pro2 to any detriment ? Are there any other considerations to be brought to bear when choosing SD cards for Raw & Jpeg use in this way ?
Thanks for any advice on this.
Pathpix
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There is no quality difference. It is lossless compression. Think of it like a zip file. The files are the same after you uncompress them.
The DNGs are bigger than the compressed raf but smaller than uncompressed.
Thanks Dalto - I'll certainly have to be more rigorous with housekeeping given the larger file sizes !
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I'm on Windows, but this only happens when you open the converter first, then search for your images.
To convert just one image I click right on the RAF file and in the pop up menu choose Open with DNG converter. Then in the converter just click on Convert.
Voila!
Also, check that you have the latest version of DNG Converter. There has been an update recently. I have 9.4.0.548
Hi Begi
Thanks for the input. Looks like I'm stuck with converting Folders as right clicking an individual File doesn't work for me ( possibly because I'm using an oldish version of the DNG Conveter to retain compatibility with my dated OSX !). Its only a minor irritation until I finally upgrade everything … Thanks anyway
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Hi Pathpix, you're very welcome.
If I may suggest, try using Adobe Bridge instead of the Fuji Raw Converter. Bridge opens the raw files directly into Adobe Camera Raw, where you can apply all adjustments, as well as Fuji's profiles for their various films (I compared them with in-camera JPGs and there was virtually no difference). From Camera Raw you can then go directly into Photoshop. This will spare you the pain of using Fuji's terrible UI and converting to TIFF, which tend to be very large files.
If you any more questions, everyone here will be happy to answer them, or feel free to pop me a PM.
Val
Hey Val
Thanks for the follow up. I've been digging around as a result of your suggestion and have now downloaded Adobe DNG Converter to convert folders into the appropriate RAW format for PS.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like only Folders can be specified for converting at any one time, not individual Files ! I can live with that anyway.
Converted files seem approx 50% larger ( though still half of the size of a corresponding TIFF). I'll test it out a bit more to determine whether disc space that would be saved specifying 'lossless compression' in the conversion leads to any significant detraction from image quality. I suspect not, but will pursue it nonetheless.
Pat H
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Hello Pathpix,
and welcome to the world of mirrorless cameras. I recently bought my first Fuji and I'm very happy with it.
I personally use Adobe Lightroom to both download and edit my images and I'm pleased with the results I obtain. I only look at photos at 100% to check focus; my opinion on image quality is then based on prints. I have to say that images printed on A3+ fine art paper look stunning.
Fuji own raw converter is absolutely terrible, in my opinion, not because of image rendition, but because the user interface looks like from the 80s...
I tried Iridient Developer and it is capable of extracting more details, but I can't justify spending more money on software to get a little bit more sharpness out of my raw files. Plus it also means I need to export the image in TIFF from LR, sharpen and import back. I'm happy with my workflow, so I'll keep it that way!
I can't comment on other raw converters because I haven't tried them and don't feel the need to do so.
Hope this is helpful!
Val
Val, Many thanks for your reply.
A few days in, having mastered the viewfinder and taken plenty of shots, I have established a workflow of sorts. I load the RAW images on to my Mac directly from the SD cards ( as suggested above ). Then using Fuji's Raw Converter I save the files in TIF format ( I agree with you about the UI, but being optimistic I hope to learn better how to use it from the manual ! ). Then I'm back on home territory - opening them up with PS and editing accordingly ( I tend to do little more than crop and, sometimes, tinker with exposure and boost contrast ). I do very little sharpening - it doesn't appear necessary.
All in all, I'm really enjoying using the X-Pro2. I find it easy to handle, providing great definition and dynamic range. I'm impressed too with image quality with high ISO's. So far, though, I've just been using it with the 35mm f1.4 lens. One gripe - the battery life is shorter than I was used to with Canon dslr's. Still, overall I'm glad I made the purchase. Cheers
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Pathpix, by a mile the best way to get your file on to a Mac is as Gordon says via a card reader or depending of the age of your Mac then use its SD card slot! I download mine in that way to my hard disk to a folder called surprisingly "Photographs".
After all that(which is easier than it sounds) you can then load them into your chosen editor, I personally have three editors Aperture, Lightroom and lately PhotoNinja.
I have no experience of Fuji's software, but have heard that it isn't much good, in my experience bundled software is usually not very good. Apple has not yet caught up with the X-T2 yet! And of course there is also Apples built in "Image Capture" app
Sorry that's a bit long winded!
Thanks Mike. I will follow the advice re downloading.
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You don't need software to download the images, you can just put the SD card in a USB SD card reader and transfer them to your computer.
In terms of processing the Fuji provided software (in the box with the camera or download from there website) is Sikypix I have never used it and the general consensus is that the image quality and colour profiles/film simulations are well done but that the software is clunky and the UI is terrible. Still its free so probably a good place to start.
The alternatives are
Lightroom - Built in film simulations and lens correction, some issues with sharpening, a lot better with the latest generation sensor. I am still not convinced, but I need to work more on the input settings
Capture One - Great software, no lens corrections although on most Fuji lenses they are not neccessary as they are optically corrected. Very good home brewed film simulations availalble in a thread in this very forum. Sharpening is great.
Iridient - Supposedly the best of the bunch for sharpening, but no cateloguing features.
There are others such as photo ninja, but the above are the main 3 really. Iridient is MAC only the others are system agnostic.
I use Capture One by preference, although right now for X-T2 I am experimenting with LR again as Capture one doesnot recognize X-T2 yet.
G
Many thanks Gordon for the detailed reply.
I note that you did not include Photoshop in your software list. I have always used PS ( the 'Elements' version at that ! ) as well as DPP for post processing ( including RAW ). Is PS not an option ?
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Hello Fufi X Forum users,
After years of Canon dslr use I've made the switch to Mirrorless and Fuji (X-Pro 2) so like many others I have a sharpish learning curve to tackle.
Here's a pretty basic enquiry that I hope someone can help me with to set me on my way :
Can anyone tell me whether Fuji has its own proprietary software: 1) for Downloading images from camera to Mac (equivalent to EOS Utility)
and 2) for initial processing of RAW files (equvalent to Digital Photo Professional).
If not, any pointers / advice on this would be very welcome.
Many Thanks
Advanced Filter disaster – don't let it happen to you
in Fuji X-Pro 1 / Fuji X-Pro 2 / Fuji X-Pro 3
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I was delighted to see the that latest Firmware (V3) has addressed this issue by allowing RAW shooting when in Advanced Filters. Anything shot by accident in Advanced Filter mode ( as above !) would now be recoverable provided Image Quality is set up for RAW & Jpeg. What happened to some of us need not happen to anyone else again.
THANK YOU for making this amendment FUJIFILM !