Bad XF 90mm f/2 R LM WR

[Zzoyd]

Just a heads up if anyone is buying a new XF 90mm lens through B&H. I've received two bad lenses. Best description I can give it is that the interior of the lens is physically loose.

 

B&H is sending a third tomorrow. No complaints with B&H's handling, but there may be a bad batch of these lenses out there.

 

~Z

[Sluw]

Just a heads up if anyone is buying a new XF 90mm lens through B&H. I've received two bad lenses. Best description I can give it is that the interior of the lens is physically loose.

 

B&H is sending a third tomorrow. No complaints with B&H's handling, but there may be a bad batch of these lenses out there.

 

~Z

 

Isn't that just because of the stabilisation or is it really broken? 

Edited March 31, 2016 by Sluw

[milandro]

the 90 seems to have this clunk

 

http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/730-xf-90mm-lens-elements-rattling/

 

http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/681-xf-90mm-now-shipping-at-bhphoto-“sharper-than-japanese-steel-…-it-will-leave-the-most-pedantic-pixel-peepers-speechless”-review-at-bokeh-monster/

[c0ldc0ne]

Yep. Chances are that you returned two perfectly fine lenses.

[d750guy]

did you try taking pictures with it?  Or you shook it, heard a clunk and decided it was broken without ever mounting it on a camera.  lol

Edited March 31, 2016 by d750guy

[Zzoyd]

the 90 seems to have this clunk

 

http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/730-xf-90mm-lens-elements-rattling/

 

http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/681-xf-90mm-now-shipping-at-bhphoto-“sharper-than-japanese-steel-…-it-will-leave-the-most-pedantic-pixel-peepers-speechless”-review-at-bokeh-monster/

 

Thanks for the links to the previous discussion. None of the several people I spoke with at B&H had never heard of the problem, one of whom was a sales person who is shooting X-gear. If any of you know Gabe Biderman (@B&H) I borrowed his 90 a couple of weeks ago and his lens didn't do this.

 

In 50+ years of buying lenses I've never heard this in a lens. I can't imagine that this can be good over the long haul even if this is what the designers intended.

[Zzoyd]

did you try taking pictures with it?  Or you shook it, heard a clunk and decided it was broken without ever mounting it on a camera.  lol

Yeah, hysterical.

[Zzoyd]

Yep. Chances are that you returned two perfectly fine lenses.

 

Your definition of a "fine" lens and mine may differ.

[Nick05]

The 90mm does this. It is normal and the lens doesn't do this when mounted to the camera with the power on.

[Aswald]

Yes. It's normal. My xf55-200 has it as well.

[Aswald]

Yeah, hysterical.

Did you take a photo with it?

[milandro]

It’s very well possible that the lens were “ normal”.

 

There is no shame in not knowing this for anyone and it is not something that you will encounter very often but the lens seems to rattle inside when not engaged on a switched on camera and that is a normal feature for this lens.

 

There are several people on line who have spoken about this, they have all observed a “ clunk” while the lens is not on the camera and turned on 

 

Good luck with your next copy but chances are that it will clunk like all others

 

http://findingrange.com/2015/09/01/fuji-xf-90mm-f2-lm-wr-lens-review/

 

https://olafphotoblog.com/2015/07/09/fujinon-xf-90mm-f2-first-take-and-taken-aback/

 

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3878356

 

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57242380

 

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1375529/6

[Sluw]

But it's not clear to me if the pictures were bad or not? And it shouldn't clunk (as much) with the power switched on indeed. The 14-150 has this clunk as well.

Edited April 1, 2016 by Sluw

[milandro]

well, OP hasn’t said whether he or she took any pictures but it appears that upon hearing the “ clunk” he or she got the idea that this would necessarily mean that the re was something wrong with two lenses in a row and chances are that the third won’t be any different.

[Marc G.]

Good frickin lord...

 

The focus group of the 90mm is controlled by a magnetic linear motor. Without power, the focus group is, within the defined space for it, a little loose. This has been reported a few dozen times in each and every damn Fuji forum. You either never heard of the search function in a forum or just don't inform yourself about a new piece of gear beforehand.

 

I'm feeling sorry for B&H. 

[milandro]

 No need to be harsh, not everyone lives on fora or checks on internet all kind of things and nobody knows everything. We all learn by making mistakes.

 

 Yes, maybe it would have been a good idea to check this out beforehand, but now this should be cleared to OP who had very good intentions with his warning post.

Edited April 1, 2016 by milandro

[ianpiper]

Just a heads up if anyone is buying a new XF 90mm lens through B&H. I've received two bad lenses. Best description I can give it is that the interior of the lens is physically loose.

 

B&H is sending a third tomorrow. No complaints with B&H's handling, but there may be a bad batch of these lenses out there.

 

~Z

 

No, that clunk is perfectly normal. Mine does it and it is a totally superb lens.

[ianpiper]

Your definition of a "fine" lens and mine may differ.

Hmm. My experience of the people on this forum is that they know their stuff. And they also tend to take the trouble to check up on the products they use without jumping to conclusions about whether they are or are not broken. Didn't you even think of googling this when the second lens had the same behaviour as the first?

[c0ldc0ne]

I'm feeling sorry for B&H. 

 

 

For being equally unaware of this issue?

[c0ldc0ne]

Your definition of a "fine" lens and mine may differ.

 

My definition is "works as designed". If yours is "doesn't clunk" then you may find it a challenge to find a copy that satisfies it.

[milandro]

Nobody knows everything.

 

And the best thing a forum can do is spreading experience.

 

Some slack needs being cut. Play nice to each other.

[Zzoyd]

Nobody knows everything.

 

And the best thing a forum can do is spreading experience.

 

Some slack needs being cut. Play nice to each other.

 

 

 

Thank you, milandro.

 

I heard back from Gabe at B&H last night. Here is his email to me. [emphasis mine]

 

"I actually never noticed it until you sent me the email and I just tested mine and it actually does the same thing.  I asked my friend at Fuji the details and he replied:

The movement is the lens quad linear motor focusing mechanism when not engaged. We need more education on that. 

They are disengaged when power off. So they rock a bit then when AF [is] on they roll!! Fast n quiet AF.

 

Hope that helps and enjoy the new lens!

 

Gabe"

[milandro]

cheers, enjoy your new lens when it comes.

 

It’s too heavy a lens for me but lots of people love it.

[Marc G.]

For being equally unaware of this issue?

 

For having customers that send back equipment being perfectly fine.

 

The XF90-rattles-when-being-shaken-"issue" has approximately 10-20 threads in this forum alone and is the #1 issue-that-isn't-an-issue reported about the 90.

 

I could understand when someone asks about it when the unit arrives and the user is unsure about it. But instantly sending back 2 units without researching?

Edited April 1, 2016 by Marc G.

[milandro]

I really think that Talleyrand was absolutely spot on with his invitation “ surtout pas trop de zèle"

 

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Edited April 1, 2016 by milandro