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56 minutes ago, jlmphotos said:

No need to be a dick.  You know what:  Do what you want.  LOL some folks can't be helped. Are you sure you aren't a Nikon or Sony user?  Here's an answer for you:  Capture ONE is THE BEST RAW processor for Fuji files bar none.  LR, comes in second.  If you did YOUR homework and checked other resources on this forum you would find that to be the case.  I use C1Pro for editing, whereas I use LR for ingesting, sorting, and eventually cataloging.  This is the reason why I wouldn't pay a subscription.  Also, I'm old school; I do not want to "subscribe" to anything.  I'd rather own it (as far as the licensing allows) as opposed to renting.  Just like I own my two homes (one outside of Acadia), thre vehicles - one at my summer home, and my freakin' Cessna!  There. How's that for showing off.  I can go on if you wish....

And if you ever need flight lessons, look me up. Jerk

 

Ah, so I was the dick - of course! Boasting of how groovy a dude I am by pointing out I don't pay that enormous $120 annual fee! I see it now! Answering the actual question was an afterthought - I get it! Well I bow to your superior stupendousness for putting me in my place. Or, you could check your ego at the door.

No doubt you realize you don't "own" software anyway - the license merely gives you license to use it - a common conceptual error people make.

But I really am oh-so-impressed! I have been humbled - a thousand pardons for my questioning of your ability to actually answer the question that was asked!

But if we need to unzip, you can get a few more lenses to catch up to me...I rather like the 200MM F2 as well as the 100-400 with the TCs. Just sayin'. Because listing your gear in your signature makes one all the cooler!

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52 minutes ago, jlmphotos said:

No need to be a dick.  You know what:  Do what you want.  LOL some folks can't be helped. Are you sure you aren't a Nikon or Sony user?  Here's an answer for you:  Capture ONE is THE BEST RAW processor for Fuji files bar none.  LR, comes in second.  If you did YOUR homework and checked other resources on this forum you would find that to be the case.  I use C1Pro for editing, whereas I use LR for ingesting, sorting, and eventually cataloging.  This is the reason why I wouldn't pay a subscription.  Also, I'm old school; I do not want to "subscribe" to anything.  I'd rather own it (as far as the licensing allows) as opposed to renting.  Just like I own my two homes (one outside of Acadia), thre vehicles - one at my summer home, and my freakin' Cessna!  There. How's that for showing off.  I can go on if you wish....

And if you ever need flight lessons, look me up. Jerk

 

wow , i wish i get successful like you too , i really want to take photography as a profession . my family business is stressful , but i just do photography as a hobby till now ,just because i love doing it , i wish it brings me revenue ,so i could do it always !. have a nice day !

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29 minutes ago, f8lee said:

Ah, so I was the dick - of course! Boasting of how groovy a dude I am by pointing out I don't pay that enormous $120 annual fee! I see it now! Answering the actual question was an afterthought - I get it! Well I bow to your superior stupendousness for putting me in my place. Or, you could check your ego at the door.

No doubt you realize you don't "own" software anyway - the license merely gives you license to use it - a common conceptual error people make.

But I really am oh-so-impressed! I have been humbled - a thousand pardons for my questioning of your ability to actually answer the question that was asked!

But if we need to unzip, you can get a few more lenses to catch up to me...I rather like the 200MM F2 as well as the 100-400 with the TCs. Just sayin'. Because listing your gear in your signature makes one all the cooler!

Wow.  You truly are an asshole. Happy New Year.  LOL. If you had bothered to read you'd see I am quite aware that no one owns the software.  And the reason I list what I own in my signature block is so that any posts that I make on here so that others can see, that unlike you, I'm not blowing smoke out my ass.  Oh and BTW:  I'll be adding a GFX 100-200 5.6 zoom to my signature block.  I just bought it today!!  LOL. Moron.

 

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Hello,
I am glad @teaandcake went to Fujifilm. I did the move a while ago buying the X-T20, coming form Nikon and previously Canon and I was blown away. Now I added a X-T3 and I won't probably go anywhere else for the time being.
I've been doing some comparative tests with different software to see how can get the best from the X-Trans sensor, finding myself in a similar situation.
Long story short, I am now down to Camera Raw (which is also in LR) with "Enhance details" .dng photos and Capture One Express (which won't export .dng for business reasons, I think).
If you work a bit with the sharpening on both software you will get exactly the same level of definition. In Camera Raw is under "Edit - Detail", while in Capture One is in "Quick - Sharpening" AND "Details - Sharpening" (so in Capture One you have to work twice). I would start from 0 on both.
Also in Capture One you have to turn down to 0 the Noise Reduction. "Details - Noise Reduction".
Zeroing all these pre-loaded settings, will get you exact results.
In terms of treating the pixel, I find Capture One being slightly (just slightly) better but only if you zoom up to the pixel you will notice it, so in real life this difference won't never be seen.
My conclusion is, between the two tools, use the one you like and feel familiar most, so play with both and set yourself at ease. Helping to choose it's also dependant on your circle of photography friends. I am staying on Camera Raw because everyone I know use Adobe, but I will play a bit with Capture One to see what has to offer.

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On 6/19/2020 at 1:14 AM, teaandcake said:

Hi all,

I’m a very keen soon to be Fujifilm owner! I’ve had an entry level Canon DSLR for years but will be getting an XT30 next week 😀

I’ve always used Lightroom to edit my RAW files but have read that it doesn’t handle the Fuji RAW files very well and Capture One does a much better job. I’ve seen YouTube videos where the Fuji files look horrible in LR and it seems like a mission to get them looking decent, never mind doing the edits you want. 
I’m not great with LR but can do basic edits and don’t like to spend hours editing photos. 

I can’t afford to pay for both software packages so I’m looking for some advice as to what may be best. 

At the moment I’m keeping my Canon just as another option but if it turns out I never use it I’ll trade it in. 
 

I keep my RAW files stored on an external hard drive and they’re all organised into folders. In LR they’re organised into collections but I’m not sure if Capture One has this option? I have the LR app on my phone and iPad but don’t use it much. 
 

If anyone can offer some advice that would be great. 
 

Thank you 😊 

I enjoy capture one more and seem to get better results with it to be honest. 
if you go on youtube there’s a Fujifilm ambassador called Andy Mumford who has done a good video on using Capture One 👍🏽
 

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1 minute ago, Chrisrm7 said:

I enjoy capture one more and seem to get better results with it to be honest. 
if you go on youtube there’s a Fujifilm ambassador called Andy Mumford who has done a good video on using Capture One 👍🏽
 

I follow Andy Mumford, his photos are amazing! 😍 

I was pretty set on switching to Capture One but they’ve increased their prices recently and now Adobe seems to be better value for money.

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2 minutes ago, teaandcake said:

I follow Andy Mumford, his photos are amazing! 😍 

I was pretty set on switching to Capture One but they’ve increased their prices recently and now Adobe seems to be better value for money.

There will hopefully be a 25% discount in springtime, the express version however is free forever! Just limited tools 😐

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Chrisrm7 said:

There will hopefully be a 25% discount in springtime, the express version however is free forever! Just limited tools 😐

 

 

I have the Express version. It’s fine but does lack quite a few features I would use. I was going to buy C1 outright but changed my mind as a subscription means I get all the latest updates. But I think £15 per month is a bit steep. Adobe is £10 and I get more programs and mobile apps. 

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1 minute ago, teaandcake said:

I have the Express version. It’s fine but does lack quite a few features I would use. I was going to buy C1 outright but changed my mind as a subscription means I get all the latest updates. But I think £15 per month is a bit steep. Adobe is £10 and I get more programs and mobile apps. 

I will have to wait to use Capture One when i get my new mac, i don’t think it is compatible with the new Apple M1 chip 😐

so it’ll be exclusively Lightroom again for a while!

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4 minutes ago, Chrisrm7 said:

I will have to wait to use Capture One when i get my new mac, i don’t think it is compatible with the new Apple M1 chip 😐

so it’ll be exclusively Lightroom again for a while!

It should work through Rosetta but I’ve seen mixed reviews. Some people say C1 works well and others say it’s very unreliable 🤷‍♀️ 

My MacBook really struggles with LR and PS so I think I’ll need to upgrade this year. Going to wait and see if there are new M1 MacBooks released this year  16” would be ideal as I don’t have the room for a desktop  

 

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Just now, teaandcake said:

It should work through Rosetta but I’ve seen mixed reviews. Some people say C1 works well and others say it’s very unreliable 🤷‍♀️ 

My MacBook really struggles with LR and PS so I think I’ll need to upgrade this year. Going to wait and see if there are new M1 MacBooks released this year  16” would be ideal as I don’t have the room for a desktop  

 

A new macbook will eat into the lens fund! 😅

i’m going for a mac mini and using the tv as a monitor temporarily, cue weird display issues… 😂

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1 minute ago, Chrisrm7 said:

A new macbook will eat into the lens fund! 😅

i’m going for a mac mini and using the tv as a monitor temporarily, cue weird display issues… 😂

Sadly yes, it’s going to wipe out the lens fund! My MacBook is so slow and I get a notification saying I have no memory left when all I’ve done is open LR. It’s really slow to edit and I don’t have the patience 😂 I bought it before I was interested in photography so didn’t think about bigger memory. 

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  • 3 weeks later...

I, as per some others on this thread use Irident X converter to convert RAF to DNG. The resulting files are then easy to edit in Lightroom without any sharpening as the conversions are so detailed already. The DNG files are a handy backup if anything happens to the original or vice versa, and can easily be edited and synced with Lightroom mobile on iphone or ipad.  I find C1 a total pain to use but I guess its something you would get more used to with practice but C1 is not for me. 

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