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Monstrously sharp lens and as you say I have discovered that people faces have pores the size of moon craters since i have started using it. 

Makes sense to release close-ish to X-Pro 2
 
I think Fuji have a bit of a marketing nightmare on their hands.
 
X-Pro2 is rightly the flagship in the sense that it has the hybrid viewfinder and with AF updates and a new sensor its going to be a great camera. However a lot of people (rightly or wrongly its still a fact) prefer the SLR shape and the additional control provided by an ISO dial etc. I think Fuji realize that they have a huge audience for the X-T its been there most popular camera and that if they wait to long to release it after the X-Pro2 then they might annoy everyone.
 
They obviously want a little bit of time for the X-Pro2 to be the only game in town so it does not get totally trounced in sales which would be embarassing given its the 'flagship' model, and more expensive.
 
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There are two broad purposes to a camera to capture memories or to capture an arresting or artistically satisfying image. Some people are in one camp or the other some in both. If you are only after memories a record of an event of people special to you a Smartphone will do the job admirably. I think its for this reason the Small compact market has been hit so hard. I think that that market will pretty much disappear. You will have enthusiast and pro cameras only, the main differential between the two probably no longer about resolution or IQ but AF speed and how many card slots
 
The more and more that I pursue photography the more I realize that the most important skill a photographer has is self curation.
 
The ability to look at our work objectively and brutally remove anything that is not up to standard, as we develop this curation is honed and honed, I regularly remove pictures from my flickr stream that I no longer consider up to scratch. I am sure I am not there yet either and that many there today will not be there in a year. This is the antithesis of the memories photographer who will keep everything regardless of quality because each photo is a memory. I do that as well. I use facebook for my memories and I have a far less stringent curation process (although I am still fairly fussy) because its about sharing memories and experiences with my friends and family who are not geographically local to me. Flickr is my outlet for the stuff I want to put my name to.
 
It is an iterative process, and comes about but becoming aware of your own abilities and those of others and your personal 'bar' moving higher and higher. This sort of development is not new to me its the same with learning a musical instrument.
 
However all of these are endeavors, labours of love, passions something which gives a person joy in the process as much as the result. Otherwize why bother. For many there is no joy in this and that is fine they just want to snap and forget and that is totally cool. Everyone is different. I can't stand golf, but for many it is there favorite pastime.
 
The article at the top of this thread could just as well  be titled memories vs hobby as iphone vs X-T1
 
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I believe the OP wanted to add one lens to compliment his existing lens, from the following options 56, 60 and 90.
 
Personally and while I love and own the 90mm and its a fabulous lens, its a large lens.
 
1) I would add the 60mm, he has the X-T10 so most of the adverse criticism of this lens being slow to focus can be ignored, I honestly notice no difference between this lens and the 18 and 35mm now.
 
2) Which brings me to my second reason the 60mm renders and colours the image in a very similar way to his existing glass. The 56 i find more clinical and less warm. Not a bad thing as its purely subjective, but if he wants his images to sit well together the 60 will get him there with less effort.
 
3) This is a travel kit having the versatility of the 60 in his kit will serve him well, it will allow macro shots plus it pack smaller and lighter.
 
4), Its also very versatile as a portrait lens for those of you interested I actually like it over the 56 as I can get in really close if I want to do abstract stuff like just an eye or over filling a frame etc, I think it gives more creative options for portraits out the box. The 56 is an amazing lens but its more of a I want to take a standard blow your mind magazine spread portrait. I find that the 60 serves the travel/street portrait better, in the same way that the 18 mm is a better street/travel lens than the 10-24mm, 14 or 16mm for my money.
 
My current go to street kit that I walk around london with at all times is X-T1, 18mm/35mm/60mm. The other advantage of this set up is that even the X-T1 while a decent size camera most people think its a flim camera when I have those lens in situ as they are so small. Soon as the 18-135mm goes on there people start getting a little more wary.
 
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6 months that makes total sense.
That would be around the time the X-Pro 2 is launched so the X-E2 gets new life and will still fit in with the overall regime whilst not impacting initlal sales of X-T10.
 
Ie If you want a rangefinder and you can't afford an X-Pro 2 you can get a X-E2 you lose out on 24MP and 4k but a lot of purists won't care. In fact a lot of people might keep an X-E2 as a second body certainly initially in case the X-Pro2 low light performance suffers due to the increased pixel density.
 
The X-Pro2 sales won't suffer because it will still be latest and greatest.
 
Fuji will get major PR from review sites and users because they are updating a 2 year old camera, encouraging people considering buying any of their cameras that its a good investment.
They will benefit from people like me content to wait and who will now invest more in glass.
 
Then they can release X-T2 6-9 months after  X-Pro2 with the 24MP, Dual Flagships
 
The really interesting question is what they will release next after that an X-T20 or an X-E3 I imagine they will review sales figures of both cameras and decide based on that.
 
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That would be awesome if it was brought upto X-T10 spec
 
In a way I wander whether imminent release of Sony A6100 might have impact. Ie its rangefinder and A6000 has been very successful competitor for X-E2 already. Maybe they figured if they are not releasing an X-E3 soon that it makes sense to keep the eixsting body in that style competitive.
 
Before anyone jumps down my throat, I would rather have an X-E2 in its current form than an A6000 I just prefer the Fuji colours and rendering and theri lens, and the fact that I can customize with hand grip etc etc
 
I have to be honest the features I am most looking forward to are.
 
1) EV dial working in manual and AUTO-IS0 Manual mode.
2) New AF would be awesome mainly for enhanced low light. If they give it the full fat I suspect that the X-E2 might be better in continous mode than X-T10 as I read it has a better buffer?
3) Custom Q menu, I shoot RAW and currently the only thing I change in the Q menu is Film Simluation and occasionally DR it would be really nice to be able to cut it down to just the stuff I need and maybe add in some of the focus options etc.
 
Electronic shutter I can live without although its sounds very interesting for me it more of a specilized situation thing whereas the above would be useful ALL the time.
Manual Video - I would love this, but can live without.
 
Interesting aside. Until I heard rumour about X-Pro2 having 4k video etc, I thought that one way Fuji might differentiate between the Rangefinder and SLR range was video. Historically most hybrid cameras have been SLR in design (Canon 5d/Lumic GH1/Sony A7s etc) the exception to that rule is the A6000 and LX100 both very capable video cameras. I thought that Fuji might follow suit and keep video the preserve of the X-T range and focus the X-Pro on stills, which makes a lot of sense to me still actually given the general demographics.
 
Ironically I am the outlier there and personally am stoked the X-Pro2 is getting video

Perhaps although I have always found that when it comes to creativity, the best material whether music or image often comes from working around the limitations whether they are in ability or in the equipment used.
 
So perhaps your right, maybe the X-E2 is just perfect as it is.
 
Certainly that Time cover taken recently with an X-E2 won't benefit from Zone AF

I hear you Milandro I try and only take 3 lens at a time when I go out as i rarely use more.
 
It is a luxury, i sort of justify my lens collections in the following two ways 
 
1) Thanks to buying the majority of the lens above with kits or on ebay I have not spent comparatively speaking a massive amount, probably  the same as  what I would have had to spend if I wanted a Nikon D810 or Sony A7Rii plus 2 lens, I am so happy to have an X-T1 which gets damn close or in some way betters those cameras (personal preference) and I get to have a very flexible lens collection that I would not have been able to afford if I was using those systems.
 
2) My photography falls broadly into 4 main camps and the lenses above serve those very well in allowing me different configurations.
 
Ski-ing - 18-135mm/27mm/10-24mm
 
This set-up works really well, as the 18-135mm is great as I can get long shots of my daughter and if I am filming her I usually ski ahead a ways, start filming and as she get nearer i zoom out. I would not normally zoom during a shot but for this kind of stuff its okay as long as its gradual. The 10-24mm is great for taking in the breathtaking scenery in the mountains. Also great for shots of guys going off jumps and rails. The 27mm is not actually necessary to this kit at all, but its a nice to have for wandering around the Ski Station stuffed into a jack pocket when we are out of an evening, I could go with 35mm but to be honest their is significant potential for the lens to get banged about so I tend to leave that at home as its my favorite lens. In all fairness the 18-135 is probably the only lens I really need in this kit, its get most use and being waterproof is the most practical. I only take the 10-24 out on blue bird days.
 
Street Kit 1 - 18/35/90mm - All primes and I actually have room in my bag to fit the 27mm with this kit if I so choose. This is a great pure prime kit that I sometimes swap out the 60 for the 90, but I find that somehow the 18/35 and 90 all seem to render in a very similar way and the 60 while great does not share quite the same character and I like the continuity across those 3 lens.
 
Street Kit 2 - 10-24mm/35mm/60 - This is another great lens combo if I am going somewhere where there is nice architecture as the 10-18mm range this afford me over the above kit is very handy. Again I may swap the 60 for the 90 here depending on how I feel that day.
 
Travel/Family - 10-24mm/18-135mm/35mm - This gives me a supremely flexible set of lens great for family and traveling with my family, 18-135 do everything and not drive my wife up the wall with lens changes, 10-24 also fits that bill to an extent and allows me to have many wide options and the 35mm gives me low light options and a prime
 
Portrait kit - 35/60/90mm - Great portrait options, virtually classic, I suppose its missing a 23/27mm option and I could include the 27mm in there for completeness, but I rarely use that focal length for portraits, just does not speak to me, I know some love it. More power to them, but you have to know what you like.
 
 
So looking through the above the most obvious lens to get rid of first for me is the 27mm but its so small and that is useful and it was the cheapest lens to purchase I got a fantastic deal on that lens £125 uk so its seems a bit pointless selling it, although that is the very definition of hoarding. The next most obvious is the 60mm as more and more I am using the 90mm in its stead, but its a great little lens, its also macro and finally If I want close up abstract portraits where I am just shooting a partial of the face, this lens is the best due to close focusing distance and sharpness. I also love the bokeh rendering on this lens.
 
So all in all I think I may just stick, I can honestly say that I am very very happy with my lenses now, this is it. I have trialed the 14/23 and 56mm and they just don't work for me, this is my kit. The only lens that might peak my interest is the new 33mm F1.0 but to be honest it probably going to be massive compared to the 35mm and the 35mm is my favourite lens of the lot. If I had to sell everything tomorrow and keep one lens and one body it would be the 35mm F1.4 hands down. So while I may daly with the idea of the 33 unless its a blow your socks off kind of lens and it has similar character to sit well with the 18 and 90 its going to have its work cut out to supplant the 35mm.
 
I have to say that I am content at this point. I may consider upgrading to the X-T2 some point down the line but I am in no rush the X-T1 is a hell of a camera, I love the images I get, I find cool news things to do with it every time I shoot it, and the AF is very very good now. I also think that lens are more important than camera which is why I have focused on them. This means that budget wize whatever camera I purchase next it probably won't be until 2017.
Interesting aside, my most recent purchase, the 18mm, a lens that gets some slating for AF performance, and its definitely one of the weakest of all my lens on that front I thought. However after a few days using it, I checked the firmware version when I was importing some images and had a clean card and low and behold it was still on version 2.01, the guy who sold it to me had not updated it since he bought it. I put the latest software on there, suddenly a different animal, and in Single AF with either spot or Zone focus its very very decent now. I think that so many people judge equipment without first ensuring its on the right firmware. In fact with hindsight that was true of the 3 best deals I got on my lens 27mm 60mm and 18mm all were on old Firmware version all were sold very cheaply, all of which have had reps for slow AF. All of which are now very very usable on an X-T1 on Fimware 4 got to love Kaizen.
 
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I think it really depends on what styles you like to shoot.
 
My lens collections is currently
 
18mm
27mm
35mm
60mm
90mm
10-24mm
18-135mm
 
I have previously owned the 8-55mm and 55-200mm
 
I agree with milandro that for me the 10-24mm is a lens that I am constantly considering selling. I don't shoot landscape my main style is street and I much prefer the 18mm for that for two reasons, one I like its rendering better than the 10-24mm and I like the fact that I can fit in the 35mm in the same space in my bag.
 
However I ski and in the mountains the 10-24 is majestic, although how many pictures of mountains can you take. The final thing holding me back from selling is that I am still holding out hope for decent video in the X-T2 and for the type of filming I will be using it for a wide angle is a neccesity (tight spaces)
 
So I have my perfect street/portrait  set up 18/35/90 along with the 18-135mm for travel 
 
I am currently trying to decide on whether to sell the 10-24mm or the 27 and 60mm
 
I don't have to sell any of them they are bought and paid for, I have got some great ebay deals over the last year especially on the older primes which are by the way fabulous.
 
Its just I am not sure I can justify 7 lens, I just don't use that many. Thats the problem with Fuji lens every time I think about selling one I take it out for a last hurrah and then take a great shot and go, hell no am I selling that bad boy.
 
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Ah and we reach the limit of my saxaphone knowledge as quickly as I had anticipated
 
I love photography for its immediacy and the fact that I can get instant results without having to rely on 7 other people being in the same place at the same time. However music is, and always will be my first love.
 
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What dis said, 
 
Only thing I would add is hold camera with sensor pointing sideways or downwards while lens is off the camera, less likely for dust to float in or settle on the sensor if you have gravity working for you.
Oh and always have camera switched off as when the sensor has current it will attract dust more.
 
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This is an interesting one.
 
My view is that we should have the Glossary sticky and continue to use TLA's (Three Letter Acronyms)
 
My reasoning.
 
Another topic that came up in this thread was whether or not it is acceptable to use advanced vocabulary. I am a huge proponent of using good words. I personally believe that you can often be more economical in your communications with an advanced vocabulary. I also question dumbing down for the greater understanding of the many. I always feel that this is a very negative outcome. If I read a word I don't understand whether on a forum or in a novel or a non fiction tome, I am pleased. I go to google or my theasaurus and I educate myself to its meaning. I have benefited from someone using this word as it has increased my vocabulary. If they had dumbed their post down I would not have benefited from learning something new. As a society as we keep dumbing down in the interests of being understood what we are effectively doing is destroying our language, which is a real shame and a loss that we will regret at our leisure.
 
To those who say it is snobery, it is not, language is a democracy, google has made language available to anyone who wants to spend the time. Language and learning are no longer denied to someone based on income, but based on effort. I am happy with that it is a meritocracy rather than elitism.
 
To that end I cannot protest the use of Acronyms, if you are serious about a pursuit, hobby or profession you will learn, you will teach yourself. 3 years ago I did not know what ISO or SS or EVF vs OVF was, in looking up these aconyms not only did I learn what the acronym stood for, I learned the meaning/concept behind the aconym, and therefore my technical understanding of photography increased. This was vital as it meant that I could focus on the creative as the technical stopped being something that blocked or slowed me down while pursuing a shot.
 
So to that end I feel the best compromize is a sticky, to provide a resource to those who have not yet been initiated into the wonderful acronyms that accompany photography but are willing to learn. Active learning where you have to chase the knowledge down yourself is often the most effective in terms of retention.
 
This is just my 2 pennyworth, take it in the spirit its meant, which is 100% positive and not about snobery or feeling superior.
 
Regards
Gordon

Might sound too minor, but it bugs me frequently -- give me the option of having the rear LCD automatically turn on when I hit the menu button (like it does when I hit play). (Reason: I prefer to shoot in EVF only+eye sensor mode, but prefer to access the menu from the rear LCD. Now to do this I have to hit menu then view mode, then when I'm done hit view mode three times to get back).

This is an interesting one.
 
My view is that we should have the Glossary sticky and continue to use TLA's (Three Letter Acronyms)
 
My reasoning.
 
Another topic that came up in this thread was whether or not it is acceptable to use advanced vocabulary. I am a huge proponent of using good words. I personally believe that you can often be more economical in your communications with an advanced vocabulary. I also question dumbing down for the greater understanding of the many. I always feel that this is a very negative outcome. If I read a word I don't understand whether on a forum or in a novel or a non fiction tome, I am pleased. I go to google or my theasaurus and I educate myself to its meaning. I have benefited from someone using this word as it has increased my vocabulary. If they had dumbed their post down I would not have benefited from learning something new. As a society as we keep dumbing down in the interests of being understood what we are effectively doing is destroying our language, which is a real shame and a loss that we will regret at our leisure.
 
To those who say it is snobery, it is not, language is a democracy, google has made language available to anyone who wants to spend the time. Language and learning are no longer denied to someone based on income, but based on effort. I am happy with that it is a meritocracy rather than elitism.
 
To that end I cannot protest the use of Acronyms, if you are serious about a pursuit, hobby or profession you will learn, you will teach yourself. 3 years ago I did not know what ISO or SS or EVF vs OVF was, in looking up these aconyms not only did I learn what the acronym stood for, I learned the meaning/concept behind the aconym, and therefore my technical understanding of photography increased. This was vital as it meant that I could focus on the creative as the technical stopped being something that blocked or slowed me down while pursuing a shot.
 
So to that end I feel the best compromize is a sticky, to provide a resource to those who have not yet been initiated into the wonderful acronyms that accompany photography but are willing to learn. Active learning where you have to chase the knowledge down yourself is often the most effective in terms of retention.
 
This is just my 2 pennyworth, take it in the spirit its meant, which is 100% positive and not about snobery or feeling superior.
 
Regards
Gordon

This is an interesting one.
 
My view is that we should have the Glossary sticky and continue to use TLA's (Three Letter Acronyms)
 
My reasoning.
 
Another topic that came up in this thread was whether or not it is acceptable to use advanced vocabulary. I am a huge proponent of using good words. I personally believe that you can often be more economical in your communications with an advanced vocabulary. I also question dumbing down for the greater understanding of the many. I always feel that this is a very negative outcome. If I read a word I don't understand whether on a forum or in a novel or a non fiction tome, I am pleased. I go to google or my theasaurus and I educate myself to its meaning. I have benefited from someone using this word as it has increased my vocabulary. If they had dumbed their post down I would not have benefited from learning something new. As a society as we keep dumbing down in the interests of being understood what we are effectively doing is destroying our language, which is a real shame and a loss that we will regret at our leisure.
 
To those who say it is snobery, it is not, language is a democracy, google has made language available to anyone who wants to spend the time. Language and learning are no longer denied to someone based on income, but based on effort. I am happy with that it is a meritocracy rather than elitism.
 
To that end I cannot protest the use of Acronyms, if you are serious about a pursuit, hobby or profession you will learn, you will teach yourself. 3 years ago I did not know what ISO or SS or EVF vs OVF was, in looking up these aconyms not only did I learn what the acronym stood for, I learned the meaning/concept behind the aconym, and therefore my technical understanding of photography increased. This was vital as it meant that I could focus on the creative as the technical stopped being something that blocked or slowed me down while pursuing a shot.
 
So to that end I feel the best compromize is a sticky, to provide a resource to those who have not yet been initiated into the wonderful acronyms that accompany photography but are willing to learn. Active learning where you have to chase the knowledge down yourself is often the most effective in terms of retention.
 
This is just my 2 pennyworth, take it in the spirit its meant, which is 100% positive and not about snobery or feeling superior.
 
Regards
Gordon

This is an interesting one.
 
My view is that we should have the Glossary sticky and continue to use TLA's (Three Letter Acronyms)
 
My reasoning.
 
Another topic that came up in this thread was whether or not it is acceptable to use advanced vocabulary. I am a huge proponent of using good words. I personally believe that you can often be more economical in your communications with an advanced vocabulary. I also question dumbing down for the greater understanding of the many. I always feel that this is a very negative outcome. If I read a word I don't understand whether on a forum or in a novel or a non fiction tome, I am pleased. I go to google or my theasaurus and I educate myself to its meaning. I have benefited from someone using this word as it has increased my vocabulary. If they had dumbed their post down I would not have benefited from learning something new. As a society as we keep dumbing down in the interests of being understood what we are effectively doing is destroying our language, which is a real shame and a loss that we will regret at our leisure.
 
To those who say it is snobery, it is not, language is a democracy, google has made language available to anyone who wants to spend the time. Language and learning are no longer denied to someone based on income, but based on effort. I am happy with that it is a meritocracy rather than elitism.
 
To that end I cannot protest the use of Acronyms, if you are serious about a pursuit, hobby or profession you will learn, you will teach yourself. 3 years ago I did not know what ISO or SS or EVF vs OVF was, in looking up these aconyms not only did I learn what the acronym stood for, I learned the meaning/concept behind the aconym, and therefore my technical understanding of photography increased. This was vital as it meant that I could focus on the creative as the technical stopped being something that blocked or slowed me down while pursuing a shot.
 
So to that end I feel the best compromize is a sticky, to provide a resource to those who have not yet been initiated into the wonderful acronyms that accompany photography but are willing to learn. Active learning where you have to chase the knowledge down yourself is often the most effective in terms of retention.
 
This is just my 2 pennyworth, take it in the spirit its meant, which is 100% positive and not about snobery or feeling superior.
 
Regards
Gordon

Saw your lastest update.
I agree Fuji can't be beholden to Sony to quite that level I agree ith your assessment. I think that Fuji have either called on a clause in the contract that limits how long a delay can be imposed. Or renegotiated. In light of SOny trying to position themselves so that they are Sensor market leaders providing sensors to other companies, its going to be hard to sign new deals with companies if there is this kind of commercial block in place. I imagine Fuji have pointed this out.
 
ANother possibility is that this has been going on so long that Fuji have managed to develop a new sensor with someone else or on there own and are going to go with that.
 
Or a combination of both. I wander if Fuji got close enough with a new sensor to say to sony hey look put up or in another year we won't need you.
 
Final option SOny are making Fuji's medium format sensor and as part of that deal Fuji renogotiated the whole thing to remove the Wait clause on the other sensors they get from sony.
 
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I have had a busy few weeks buying lens recently, having just sold my 18-55mm and bought a 18-135, 10-24mm and now the 60mm
 
My plan is to evaluate my whole lens collection together and then I will be selling some, as to be honest 3-4 is all I need. A combination of good deals and coming into some money has enabled me to buy first and then try and whatever I don't like will go back on ebay and money will be put in savings against X-Pro 2 or X-T2
 
10-24mm
27mm
35mm
60mm
18-135mm
55-200mm
 
I shoot travel street and portrait as my main focuses you won't see much travel/portrait yet on my flickr as mainly family focused and I am trying to keep my flickr ouput focused.
 
Lenses that I will 100% be keeping
 
10-24mm
35mm
 
Interestingly the above is probally all I need for street right now, the 27mm is nice for low-key but is a complete luxury now that I have the 10-24mm mind you its very small.
 
Its mainly about rounding out the kit.
 
Currently my decision making revolves around.
 
18-135mm vs 55-200mm I wanted the 18-135mm so when I am with family a) I don't have to keep changing lens all the time and I can have 2 primes with me for creative stuff rather than before when I had 18-55mm and 55-200mm and only had room for one prime in my travel kits (35mm)
 
My concerns its not as good at compression and blur for portrait as the 55-200mm, I love that lens, its amazingly sharp. Part of the reason I have bought the 60mm is to give me an interesting portrait lens slightler longer than the 35mm. I considered the 56mm but I like the 60mm way it renders, just speaks to me and I think it matchs the rendering of the 35mm more closely than the 56.
 
So choice for me is given the ample coverage between 10-60mm do i ditch the 18-135 and keep the 55-200 giving me this
 
10-24mm
35mm
60mm
55-200mm
 
or ditch 55-200 giving me this
 
10-24mm
35mm
60mm
18-135mm
 
Pro for first option is that I have great street kit 10-24/35/60at a push and a great portrait kit 35/60/55-200
 
However as mentioned the main reason I wanted 18-135 was for family trips. So my ideal travel kit would be 10-24/35/18-135, the 55-200 would work very well technically in that kit, it gives the biggest range of focal lengths, good portrait options, good wide angle options and great low light option. However I would be changing lenses a whole lot more.
 
I think it all comes down to how I get on with the 60mm if it gives me what I am looking for in terms of portrait then I may be able to get rid of 55-200mm I have found the 18-135mm is fairly good up to about 100mm and I can get some compression from it, but its not as nice as the 55-200.
 
If I was a pro I would keep all of them. Mind you if I was a pro I would probably replace both 55-200 and 18-135 with the 55-140. I would probably also give some very serious thought to the 90mm
 
Anyway i am not pro and I need to cut down. I am leaning towards selling the 55-200 and the 27mm
 
I will have my perfect street kit, my perfect travel kit and my portrait kits will have one week link. It also means I am only ever leaving one lens at home instead of 3 which just seems wasteful.
 
Or the other obvious choice I get a bigger bag, before some wag jump in a suggests it
 
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If I could only take one lens I would take the 35mm
 
My old travel kit when I had M4/3 was 14mm/25mm/45-200 which was okay but to be honest I rarely if ever used the 45-200 In fact about 80% of my shots were with the 25mm, that was partly because it was light years ahead of the other lens in IQ and partly because you really can live with just one focal length.
 
Now I take 10-24mm 18-135mm and 35mm
 
What I like about that combination is whicever lens is on the camera I can use it as a walkaround.
 
The 10-24 is great at 23mm which a lot of people use as there only focal length (X100 etc), the 18-135 is obviously the most versatile lens in the line up, or if I am feeling some prime action the 35mm can happily stay on my camera all day. I.e whatever is on my camera at any time will not limit me as a travel based lens, but at the same time I have a very wide overal focal range 10-135mm and I have low light options from teh conventional F1.4 of the 35mm to the 5 stops light advantage from the Stabilization of the 18-135. The only loss in that kit is the nice compression and portrait characteritics of the 55-230 but you can get that from the 60mm and its not really neccessary when travelling. you can get close with 18-135 at 90mm.
 
From your lens line up I would take
 
12mm
35mm
55-230
 
This will cover all your bases.
 
I would also seriously consider selling the 18-55 and 55-230 and replacing with the 18-135  then your travel kit could look like this.
 
12mm
35mm
18-135mm
 
and depending on the size of your bag you will be able to squeeze in the 27mm or even the 60mm
 
Personally I would go with 27mm as then if you want to go out with just your camera in a coat pocket and no bag for dinner etc then you have a very compact solution.
 
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INdeed
 
 
However as well as fixing the Windows 10 compatability issues the following improvements are introduced.
 
- Improvement of “Eye detection AF” speed when used with XF90mm
– Operational improvement of Fn1 Function button (Default setting : movie shooting)
– Angle difference between jpeg image and jpeg image converted from RAW file
 
Now the first one is only of interest to 90mm users and the last one sounds like it may well be X-T10 specfic as opposed to X-T1
 
However I think there are quite a few people who are going to be very interested in the operational improvement of the Fn1 button (movie button)
 
Some would very much like this to be able to be assigned to other functions such as face recognition etc. Some like me would like it to maybe switch camera into Video mode but not start recording video. Ie I could press this button, and it siwtchs camera into the video drive mode. Then I press shutter to actually start recording.
 
If so can we have this on the X-T1 please, pretty please
 
The reality is that the above improvements are probably all going to be rolled up into X-T1 Firmware 5 that is rumoured as they don't need to rush it as its already compatable with windows 10.
 
Makes me very excited about the Firmware 5 as I think they are going to use it to push the X-T1 clearly to the top of the heap so its very clearly flagship and then X-T10 and X-E2 will be roughly similar in spec.
 
 

I think its all a matter of generations.
 
The X-E2, and X-T1 and funnily enough even though its barely 2 months old the X-T10 are all in the same generation ( I would have to include X100T in that as well.
 
I think that they should all be brought up to same level.
Lets fast forward 18months. Hopefully by that point we will have an X-Pro 2 an X-T2 and who knows maybe even a X-T20 and or X-E3. Ideally they should all be at relatively the same level of firmware performance in terms of AF and IQ etc, but they have different ergonomics, EVF stratgies etc and that is how they are delineated.
 
I think the other delineation we are likely to see is Video. I would put money on the fact that the X-E2 v4 firmware will include the AF upgrades as that would be super beneficial and some other nice tweaks like D-Pad customizable buttons or direct focus point control, viewfinder options aligned, customizable Q menu etc, these are all refinements that don't really threaten the X-T1 or 10 but would improve a users life considerably.
 
I think they will keep video the preserve of the X-T1 as its more of a hybrid style camera anyway, ie the X-T1 has 3 major advantages over the rest of the line up in terms of video 1) Full Manual control of video, 2) 24p(this is debatable depedingin on what your style is) and 3) Control of video via remote app. This last one is huge and has been the major contributer to me moving to X-T1
Why, well becuase all hybrid cameras in EU are artificially limited to 30 mins becuase of EU tax laws. The cameras if defined as Video cameras, woudl see a huge hike in price so manufaturers just bodge round this with a record limit.
 
However I mainly use my camera to record gigs, on a tripod while I am on stage. Previously I used a hacked GH1 where I was able to remove record limit. The X-T1 offers me another option. I can have it set up to remote control, and I can start and stop recroding every song. This actually gives major advantages over the GH1,
1) The video files are smaller and I know that 1 file = one song no laboriously trolling through an hour long file to find one song
2) If the camera stops working and/or corrupts a file I only lose one song
3) I can check from stage that everyone in band is in shot. Often people move round and I once cut off the drummer head from an entire gig (some may say this was an advantage)
4) Touch screen focus. Ability to re-focus camera from stage as band naturally settles into comfortable positions.
 
So for me the above was enough to move frmo my beloved X-E2, if they keep that delineation that gives them product seperation, especially when 4k hits.
 
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So far loving it
 
Like i think Marcelo I am not a fully paid up member of the bokeh club, or I am but I like my bokeh subtle. I.e I often stop my 35mm down to 2.4 etc so I get some pop and blur, but not crazy thin DOF, well the 60 is great for me as wide open its pretty much where I like it.
First shots are very very encouraging, and I love the way the Bokeh renders, very subtle. I have not had time to properly process any shots yet so that will be the final test.
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Ha what a great compromize, Motion carried.
 
Seriously that would be such a great idea, because X-Pro is all about rangefinder goodness and using vintage glass etc and the X-T series is definately more in the hybrid camera mold like the GH4 and Sony A7 series.
 
Good call, and a great way to differentiate the lines, without having to take away stuff thats important to everyone like AF options etc Hell a lot of people might buy both, Zack Arias I am looking at you
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Jeremy
 
Thanks for update I just assumed that the drive dial on eh X-T10 woudl have video as I think that camera apart from shape owes more to the X-E2 than the X-T1, but thanks for letting me know that has just disapated the last of my buyers remorse over having chosen the X-T1 over the X-T10
 
Yeah I would happily trade either the ADV Filters or the Overlay (wtf) for video on the tab under the iso wheel

Mike
 
Normally I would agree with you, when I am shooting wide I am wide and when I am long I am long. Then I had a child and they can be in your face one minute and the other side of a playground nanoseconds later Suddenly having a large focal range becomes very appealing. I also find it very useful when ski-ing as its hard enough juggling a camera in those circumstances and when someone is haring towards you at mach 2 and you want a wide shot you just don't have time to change lens. Hmm 18-135 is also weather sealed so probably better for this as well.
 
I agree with you and I don't use the 55-200mm in teh 135-200mm range. I use it in the same range as the 18-135, namely between about 70mm and 120mm depending on circumstance. Both lens give me compresion, but I find at these focal lengths the 55-200mm looks better because you can shoot it with a wider aperture and therefore you get more bokeh with the compression. It just look nicer most of the time. It is also sharper between 90-120mm I like your suggestino of the 90mm but for now this is an exercise in reducing lens and trying to put some money aside for the next camera.
 
Bottom line its quality vs convenience. I think given my jsut remembered ski-ing requirement and the reality of how often I shoot with my kid vs portraits that the choice is made. I am going to keep the 18-135mm and shift the 55-200 I have taken some lovely shots with it though and will be sad to see it go.
 
Thanks for input, both helfpul in focusing my mind.