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Hmmm... isn't that what you'd expect if the focus area was over the sloping part of the lensalign? Have you moved the area to the left or is it in the middle? And just to check, is the camera in single shot mode ("S" on the front switch) and single point focus mode (not zone or wide/tracking?). What if you try manual focus on the lens align target with focus peaking on... you can use the af-l button to see where the camera thinks focus is... do the peaking highlights work properly? Just thinking of things to try to help understand...

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I'm surprised nobody has posted their thoughts on the X-T20... I've had mine for a few days, so here goes. I'm coming from a X-T10... seemed like an obvious upgrade. The features that attracted me were better sensor, better AF, touch screen. The cameras are physically almost identical... same size, shape and weight, just a couple of minor button changes. I like the form factor so that's great... and any accessories like grips and cases for the X-T10 will fit. The user interface has evolved... instead of the numbered tabs in the menu system things are now organised into themed areas... image quality, AF, flash, movie, camera settings etc. There is also a "my menu" tab where you can add a screenful of items that you choose in the order you like. This is a good idea, but the settings you're allowed to put on there seem unnecessarily restricted (I couldn't add the "sound & flash" setting for example). The viewfinder view is very similar... there are more AF points and more of them are phase detect, which is good. The zone mode areas are now all square (one was a rectangle before). There's a setting for the number of AF points... the default is "plenty" and you can go to "all you can eat"... you'd have to have a very small object or a very particular composition. The LCD screens are the same, including the tilt mechanism, except the new one is touch. When you're shooting, the screen can be used to select an AF point (without focussing), to focus on a point, or to focus on a point and then shoot. You can select the operation on the screen itself by touching a small control area in the top right... it cycles through the options (or disables touch). Touching the screen has no effect when the screen is off... so your nose won't take a picture while you're at the viewfinder! At playback time the touch screen let's you flick between images and zoom in and out with pinching. Double tap zooms to the focus point. There's no way to delete an image by touch, but maybe that helps avoid accidents. It's a small screen, so a bit fiddly compared to a phone. The menu system or the quick menu don't respond to touch... so maybe it's not as integrated as it could be. One of the function buttons has gone, but the movie button is now a general purpose function button. You can assign these in the menu system or by a long press. The four direction buttons can be used for four functions or for directly moving the focus point. Both the control dials act as buttons too by pressing them... the rear one does "focus check" by default but you can assign it to something else if you like. The front one does very little by default and annoyingly you can't assign it (other way round on the X-T10... front is assignable and rear is fixed for focus check). That's perhaps the most annoying thing so far. I haven't done any "proper" side by side tests... and I haven't explored the effect of the various image quality settings (sharpness, noise reduction etc), but I expect I will. The JPEGs seem to be around 11-12Mb and the raw files (now compressed!) are 25-30Mb. 24Mpixel gives lots of scope for cropping... here's a picture of the moon taken handheld with the 55-200 lens. So, I can't believe I'm the only X-T20 user here... I'd like to hear your thoughts. And a question... does anyone know if it's safe to use the old batteries, or should I only use the W126S version? Mark

When I saw the subject I thought of the Canon EF-S 15-85... a great walk about lens.

Umm, there isn't a PASM dial.... the mode is implied by setting the shutter speed or the aperture (or both) to auto or not like most other X cameras. There is a drive mode dial that gives easy access to shooting speed, filters, bracketing, panorama and a double exposure feature. And there's an auto switch that enables a built in game where the camera takes a picture and you have to guess how it did it

I think you're right, but not available yet. I'll be using it with the 55-200 at the weekend, so I think I'll appreciate the need

Well, wex say they have dispatched it... so this time tomorrow I could be learning my new camera!

I hope you got what you wanted Ben. I've just ordered one from wex where they seem to have both bodies in stock. Fingers crossed for a Friday delivery!

Maybe easier to control (for some) with your eye to the viewfinder?

The 27mm lens doesn't have an aperture ring at all, so you already control the aperture with a command dial. Not sure if you can choose which command dial does what if your camera has two dials... my camera only has one.

That's not quite right... if the checksums are different then the files are different, but if the checksums are the same then the files are not necessarily the same. You should just compare the files...

I'm right there with you Ben... my LCE (London Camera Exchange) are expecting some "any day now" and will ring me, so I'm on standby I was hoping to get it before the Formula E motor racing in London at the weekend...

*sigh*... I haven't found anywhere with stock in the UK yet.

Well, no dispatch notice yesterday and at 3am on delivery day an email saying "Sorry, unexpectedly out of stock" and a 3-5 week estimate. So much for impulse buying... back to plan A.

I rang my local camera shop and they didn't seem sure... and said the end of the month. I looked on Amazon (UK) and they say the 18th June (tomorrow). So I ordered from Amazon... It says they will dispatch it today for delivery tomorrow... so I'm quite excited! But will it really happen? Does anybody know anything different? Mark

Soon I'll be able to compare these two in the hand, but for now it's pros and cons from the spec sheets. So far the factors I'm considering are XT-10 smaller and lighter than X-T1. Lower magnification viewfinder (without the dual mode feature) and slightly lower res screen. Smaller buffer size and can't take UHS-II cards. No weather sealing. Built in flash versus external for X-T1. Lower JPEG compression for X-T10. I don't think the lack of front function button is an issue because I think the front dial can act as a button (and the X-T1 front dial can't). Is that right? I'm coming from a X-E2, so all I really want is a tilting screen

Maybe you should have the 10-24 zoom lens on your list? It's f/4 but has OIS, so probably OK for handholding with non-moving architectural subjects. You get the versatility at the cost of size and weight. I second the recommendation for reviews at lenstip, and add a suggestion for similar reviews at http://www.photozone.de/fuji_x Mark

That sounds like good news! Fingers crossed for electronic shutter as well.

I feel so close to buying a 10-24 right now... need to find some old stuff to trade in

Yes, but we don't know what will be in the update. For example, they have already declined to give the X-E2 electronic shutter once (when it was added to the X-T1). For the viewfinders I was wondering about the eyepoint... 23mm for X-T1 and X-E2 but 17mm for X-T10. This is the distance behind the viewfinder your eye can be and still see the whole view. Does the shorter eyepoint make the viewfinder less convenient to use?

It may not add more revenue because we're not paying for the new firmware and we're not buying a new camera, but like the artist doing the encore, our appreciation is worth something to them. They want our loyalty and our future business... For example, they might have an idea how long it will take to develop a X-E2 successor... they surely want current X-E2 owners to still be around and willing to upgrade. They don't want us leaving disappointed and reluctantly choosing another brand because development took too long...

I've seen several reasons people give to support a JPEG only workflow... one is speed (publishing breaking news) and one is that it encourages you to get it right in the camera (which I can understand). I do it because I don't want to use silkypix... with my Canon I was happy to use the bundled digital photo professional to edit and convert raw images, but I find silkypix much harder to use. JPEG's not all bad... you can do actual non-destructive cropping if you need to. Google's picasa offers some non-destructive editing as well, applying a sequence of operations to the original file each time to minimise the number of recompressions. I haven't bought anything for managing my photos... which is the best package? The answer seems to be changing all the time... I do save the RAW files too, so should I ever take a remarkable photo then I will be able to edit it properly later But for now JPEGs are fine for me my uses.

It's easy for me to understand as a X-E2 owner... it's a current model that's only three months older than X-T1 and (we are led to believe) pretty much the same internal hardware... hard to see a reason not to update it if it's not much more work.

I'm going through the same process... I have a X-E2, wondering whether to upgrade at all and if I do whether to X-T10 or X-T1. The X-E2 does have a deeper buffer than the X-T10 for continuous mode, but that's about it. On the other hand, if they update the X-E2 with all features in the firmware then the X-T10 wouldn't offer much more (a tilting screen, which I would appreciate). I've read that the X-T10's viewfinder has a closer eyepoint than the other models... does that make the viewfinder harder to use? Do you have to have your eye in just the right place? I need to try it out when I can... I'm also worried that the new user interface will be less readable with smaller writing... Just a few more weeks to wait until my local shops will have it.

This is the question... if I remember, they have already not given the X-E2 electronic shutter once (when they added it to X-T1), but X-E2 did get the viewfinder refresh, intervalometer and MF improvement. I hope we get everything... and if they can find a way I'd really like a tilting screen as well :)