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To clarify, it only ruins Autofocus mode in Aperture Priority mode, which is crucial for on-the-street shots where speed is paramount. The first shot I take is quick. The second shot (or any recomps if you release a half-press then want it back) is too slow to use. It's actually not the flickering ruins it, it's the forced delay. It's mostly a problem because the full auto mode *loves* F2.0, which just doesn't cut it in daylight street shooting, which is when I really need fast reaction times.
Does it make it unusable in the most literal sense? No, because obviously pictures can be taken. Does it make it unusable in that there's a very specific, highly needed use-case where this issue makes me unable to use it? Yes.
And I'm fine with being first to test and find weaknesses for this camera, My posting here isn't to complain as much as to hope that Fuji actually reads these forums. If there is a technical need for this behavior, that's great. If not, and it's just an oversight, hopefully they fix it. What's most frustrating is people asserting that this is a solution somehow to the previous aperture chatter, which it isn't. Or that I should refrain from commenting on these issues because I chose to buy the camera early and so should keep my mouth shut about things Fuji should improve.
Sorry, I don't get the point and give up... the autofocus works exceptionally well in Aperture Priority and is lightning fast in addition, at least with my copy of the X100F... doesn't matter if it's the first or the fifth picture. I don't recognize any significant delay at all... And I don't understand the point you mentioned with the "full auto mode". I thought we are talking about Aperture Priority...
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My main problem is that Auto mode so often (almost always) uses F2.0 even if there's plenty of light. So if I want more depth for street shooting, I need to set my aperture to F5.6 or something. But then the autofocus mode is unusable, especially because if I release my finger from the shutter it takes at least 3x as long to shoot the next shot than if I were in MF or full auto mode. If this is a feature I'd like to know what problem it solves, and if that's more important than ruining autofocus with a set aperture.
Autofocus mode is unusable? C'mon man ;-)
You will find my two cents about this problem at the very end of:
http://peterpoete.de/the-f-stands-for-the-fujifilm-x100f/
No offence,
Peter
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Hi,
here you will find my review and thoughts...
http://peterpoete.de/the-f-stands-for-the-fujifilm-x100f/
Cheers,
Peter
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huge, spectacular, wow!
Big words.
I’ve yet to find a picture that could be made with the two new cameras and could NOT be made with the old one.
The joystick is much criticized , the video functions don’t interest me. I can print 2 X 1 meter with the X-T1 and the difference with the X-T2 will still be almost invisible.
Obviously we live in a different world. I am happy and you are too.
Obviously we do... ;-)
As we both seem to be happy with our choice, there is no need to debate further more. Just some remarks from my site: nor did I say you can't make the same pictures with each camera neither did I talk about image quality in general in my posts. Most of the improvements (especially with the X-Pro2!!!) are ergonomically and yes, I think those improvements (for the X-Pro2 e.g. the excellent and extremely useful joystick, the speed, the EVF, the AF, the button layout and many other things) are highly appreciated and very important for me and my work as well as for the joy to use the cameras. So I stand by my word: the improvements are huge for the X-T2 and spectacular for the X-Pro2. But hey, to each his own!
With this in mind, cheers and keep on shooting with whichever camera you like... ;-)
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no, but after the honeymoon period ( de few months after the intoduction of the new cameras) now a lot of people start realizing that the “ improvements” are mostly negligible while the price they paid for those questionable “ improvements” is absolutely tangible.
Again If I’d shot the picture above with the X-T2 I’d be now complaining. But I am not, because I didn’t use the X-T2 but my X-T1.
Ok, in that respect I clearly have to contradict. ;-) I don't think the improvements are "negligible". In the case of the X-T2 they are huge imho, in the case of the X-Pro2 the improvements are nothing else than spectacular. Those improvements have been the reason for me to switch to the system... nonetheless, the grid pattern are annoying though.
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another reason not to desire upgrading my X-T1 then.
Maybe yes... on the other hand I would like to emphasize that at least under my personal photographic "real life conditions" (with pictures like in my Instagram account) I've recognized the grid pattern in one picture in six month of use. And not as bad as in the shown examples of course. Furthermore the problem is dependent on the lens to a certain extent. The XF56 is significantly worse in this aspect than the XF35F2 or the XF16 e.g... All in all no really big deal for me untill now. But if someone is specialized in portraiture under real harsh backlight conditions at the beach... puh, then I'm not sure if I would recommend the cameras to him or her...
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click on more reply options and then you have the menu for attachments , you have 1000Kb each post and can put as many images as you want within that 1000Kb. You have no limits of posting and each post can be as big as you possibly can fit.
Thanks...
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Hi,
unfortunately you will have to live with this issue or you have to sell for camera ;-)
By that time it's a well known and described phenomenon of the sensor (X-T2 and X-Pro2) and the only chance to avoid it is to be careful and change the camera position a little bit when you see it in the EVF.
You will find much more about it here:
http://www.mirrorlessons.com/2016/07/25/fujifilm-x-pro2-grid-artefacts/
And yes, you can find some problems with purple flare with other systems as well (remember Olympus OM-D with the Panasonic 7-14), but I've never seen such grid pattern anywhere else. And it is very easy to reproduce this kind of grid pattern... fortunately you can see it in the EVF and changing the angle a little bit to avoid it is easy as well. I own the X-T2 and the X-Pro2 and have to live with the issue as well...
I wanted to upload some examples I've shot with the X-T2 but I didn't find the button for attachments... is it that complicated or am I just blind? ;-)
Update: Ah, found it...
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I can't confirm that at all. I would rather say it seems to be faster and snappier... even under the darkest conditions.
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I got one, and have only one complaint and that is it fits too tight in the flash socket. Actually, it's quite hard to remove it. The one they make for X-Pro1 does also have a tight fit, but is rather easily removed for flash photography.
Ah, OK. I've tested it... mine has a tight fit as well, but it's not difficult to remove.
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Ordered one—due Thursday. Looks really well made. I ordered a soft release, too. I'll report on them after my upcoming weekend getaway.
I've got mine yesterday and can confirm that it is both very well made (even the folding mechnism) and really usefull ergonomically...
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Yesterday Fuji officially confirmed that the flickering is caused by the aperture, but did not call it a malfunction. According to what they said it is a normal and wanted behavior of this camera. Ok, good to know, but I'm still convinced that it is not a neccesary behavior and could be changed by Fuji, as other cameras do it in a better way, even other Fuji cameras. We will see... and yes, it's not a deal breaker, but would definitely be better otherwise...
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I'm pretty sure now that it is related to the closing aperture... you never see it in poor light conditions when the aperture stays open. For some reason the electronic seems to have a problem 'smoothing' the steps of closing aperture in the EVF and LCD. I'm pretty sure as well that Fuji can fix that...
I have to correct myself... it also happens in darker conditions. The only thing you have to do is to set the lens to a smaller aperture. Then the camera closes the aperture during focussing and opens it after releasing the shutter button. The same phenomenon comes up then every time... only reversed.
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It was indoors at night, with just one overhead light in the room when I first noticed the flicker.. Just after I updated the firmware it started to flicker.. I noticed the battery was somewhat low, shut camera off and put it away.. The next day I took the camera out to see if I could figure out whats going on. Put a new battery in it, started it up, and no flicker.. Indoors same overhead light, but during the day. I just now picked up the camera, in the same room, with same light at night. And the flicker is back. Not when I press the shutter half way this time. But when I release it, after being pressed half way.. Ive searched online, and havent really found much about this, other than it seams to be popping up more, and more now..
I'm pretty sure now that it is related to the closing aperture... you never see it in poor light conditions when the aperture stays open. For some reason the electronic seems to have a problem 'smoothing' the steps of closing aperture in the EVF and LCD. I'm pretty sure as well that Fuji can fix that...
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I noticed my battery was a bit low when this was happening. I changed out the half dead battery for a fresh one. Now it does not do it. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But, for now it has stopped doing it on my x-pro2
I don't think the battery is the problem. Did you try it while pointing the camara to bright light, let's say outside? In darker conditions the flickering diasappears (maybe becauce the aperture does not close).
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Is it possible that this is the apperture opening again after the shutter button is released? It does this in little steps that may cause the flickering effect. Look at the front of the lens when you let go the shutter button.
Right, the aperture is closing in light conditions, not in one step, but in several small steps (in difference to X-100 e.g. which closes the aperture after releasing the shutter button in one step and faster)... that might be the source of this flickering. And should be easy to correct I hope...
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I waited for the solution of the turn-off-and-on-again bug. Was about to finally spring for the camera, which I really like. Now this. Another deal breaker. Please let us know how this issue works out for you. I'm right on the edge of giving up on the Pro2.
I did not recognize any other problems till now... never seen that reported bug
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That's exactly what the flicker on mine looks like. What a bummer.
As long as it is a firmware problem and Fuji will fix it... OK.
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Hi, same here, but in the beginning I did not notice it on the lcd, because I rarely use it. I noticed ithe problem on the evf, especially in daylight, not in artifical light. Almost everytimes after focussing the evf flickers very fast, let's say 3 to 7 times. No difference between the power management modes. Because I bought the camera one week ago, I'm not sure if it was different with firmware 1.01. I have already contacted Fuji, but no answer till now. Yes, a little bit annoying...
I'm not a videographer, so the quality is... ;-)
But if you look attentively you will see it anyway...
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I don't see any noticeable delay for the subsequent shots in AF mode... neither in Aperture Priority - regardless which aperture I've chosen - nor in Program Mode... the only very short "delay' I notice is due to the autofocus, but it's lightning fast for all the shots as I already said... I could shoot the camera without any interruption, even if I don't know why I should shoot like this... but I've tried to do it and it works perfectly ;-)