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I'm tempted to get the 14mm but my wallet still says get the 12mm Samyang and my head says get the zoom...

you're probably right about the IQ and AF speed, but for me the 18-55 already the limit in size and weight for a mirrorless camera for me. The large weight and size of the 16-55 really puts me off and that's why I prefer the 18-55 to it. But to get back on topic. There is a video on fujirumors with a test of the f1.4 with fw 4. Looks snappy enough for me!

I saw a video with billy from the fujiguys and stated that the lens isn't officially announced. But imo it would be a dumb move to leave out WR. I'd rather prefer my 35mmf1.4. Af speed is adequate for me and the 1.4 is already quite small. I would buy the 35mm f2 for its WR as an ultimate carry around lens for when the conditions are a bit rough.

After almost buying the Samyang/rokinon i suddenly changed my mind. I own the 8mm fisheye for when I want to fool around, but didn't like the build that much. If I'm gonna invest in a new lens I have to be 100% sure I won't regret it. Now I'm torn between the fujinon xf14 and xf16. When I get the chance I'll definitely try them side by side. But if you guys could only choose 1 ultra wide... Which would it be?

I agree for the most part. If it proves that the iq is as good as a "real" summilux it isn't as expensive most people think. Considering the announced 28mm summilux (albeit f1.4 instead of f1.7) is € 4000-5000. That is a lens without AF and without a FF camera attached! I think this camera is a steal. If I was invested in a Leica system I'd probably get the Q (second body) instead of the 28 f1.4 summilux. I also prefer the x100 to the xf 23mm f1.4 lens. But in this situation the camera is more expensive then the lens.

I have a wrist strap, which I used on my x-e1 (which I sold). I haven't given it any use since getting a Luigi case and strap for my x100s. The leather of the Luigi strap is far superior to the Gordy though.

My think tank mirrorless mover 20 is small and carries my xt1 with lens, x100s and 1 lens (or 2 lenses). Lenspen, spare batteries, sd cards, ef-20, iPad 4, rain cover, with room for more accessories. Their available in heathered grey now, which I like more then my original one. I also have a Hadley small. Which carries about the same but is a little bulkier and also misses a handle on the lid.

This definitely will be a must have lens for every xshooter! A weather resistant 50mm equivalent is what I was waiting for. I also like the new design and I hope it's the first of many new "smaller" lenses. I only wish it had the push/pull focusring with distance markings. Seeing the foto isn't the final design I'm still hoping....

I considered the touit. But seeing how cheap the Samyang/Rokinon is, the reviews, the fact that they're the same focal length and the cheaper one a full stop faster it's a no brainer between these 2.

one important thing , you didn't mention, to consider is the size and weight. The f2.8 zoom lenses are huge compared to the primes. The 35mm f2 WR is going to be even smaller then the classic 35mm f1.4. If its only about light gathering f2 is still a full stop faster then f2.8. If it's about dof the 35mm f1.4 stopped down to f2 will still give you nice bokeh. Don't underestimate an f2 lens. It's plenty fast and still has nice thin dof. Remember that the x100 series is "only" f2. Personally I don't think the 16-55mm f2.8 isn't worth it because: - no ois - no internal zoom - large and heavy - get the cheaper and smaller 18-55 with ois http://admiringlight.com/blog/fuji-16-55mm-f2-8-vs-18-55mm-f2-8-4/ And if you want fast and thin dof get the 56mm f1.2 instead.

You could wait for the 35mm f2 WR. And then make the choice. It's gonna be smaller, faster focusing and weather resistant. You already own the 56 for shallow df anyways... So I recommend waiting for the f2 version. That said...as long as I shoot Fuji il never sell my 35mm f1.4 its a absolute gem!

never shot ultrawide before... So I'll probably need to figure that out for myself.

too bad Fuji can't update that with a FW upgrade on their existing lenses.

You wont!

Very nice indeed! Wish I had more money to burn. Leica is playing catchup and learned especially from the panny lx100. The macro ring looks really cool. I love how the lens has a focus tab, mechanical MF AND AF. When will Fuji finally ditch focus by wire?

I'm not sure if you're gonna be satisfied using these lenses. It seems to me you'll probably not gonna use them very often. You're going to be much more satisfied with the quality of the xf lenses. If you want a 35mm experience in small format, then your best option will be the xf27mm pancake. It's small and closest to 35mm (40mm) you can get in a small form factor. No aperture ring though. I passed on the slrmagic because of its size and realized I didn't need another 35mm equivalent lens, because I already got a x100. Maybe just be patient. Fujifilm is introducing a "smaller" 35mm the end of this year. Maybe they'll do the same with the 23mm...

My condolences...

This question was already asked in a former topic: http://www.fuji-x-forum.com/topic/274-35mm-f2-—-wr-or-not/#entry2617 Essentially it's probably a misprint. On all the images available of the 35mm f2 it clearly says WR

Don't forget the newer camera's have an updated EXRII processor. The xpro1/xe2 are of the first generation and fujifilm have clearly moved on. I'm not expecting any future upgrade of EXRIII/XTRANSIII features on the current generation.

For the price of a new lens you could easily get a used x100 s/t in my opinion. The best 35mm experience you can get! I have a xt1 and x100s combo. Makes a very good backup camera and no fiddling with lens changes. The x100 s/t doesn't really take more space in your bag then an extra lens. You do get less speed and dof 2 vs 1.4 though, but that shouldn't be a big issue.

I totally agree with you that some people should show humility! I have a x-t1 and have all the latest bells and whistles. But it also reminds me that my x100s isn't reaching its full potential. Fuji probably is a bit random in how they perform kaizen, no sense of direction. It feels like they made a mistake with the x100s and quickly replaced it with the x100t. In my opinion the managers should have decided early on, that all camera's of the same generation (EXRI, XTransI and EXRII,XTransII) should have the same FW features. With the obvious exception of hardware limitations (evf resolution, fixed lens vs ilc, wifi, button layout etc) this makes sense to me as a business model. Apple also does it with its software. They could choose to not upgrade the software of older models of iPhone/macs. But instead it made more sense to continually improve their products and therefore apple has been growing even more. The software in every product is essentially the same, the hardware makes the difference. People should be able to choose between camera's not because of software features but hardware. This forum and topic is just a way for some of us to vent frustration and/or give our opinion.

You are totally not getting it. The hardware is going to reach a limit when the EXRIII processor is introduced. So any new features that will be introduced in the xpro2 will most likely not be available for x100s, x100t, x-e2, x-t1 or x-t10. But at least these camera who are of the same generation should have the FW to take full advantage of the hardware it has, before Fuji takes the next step. They already did it with the EXRI camera's within its hardware limits. (x100, x-pro1, x-e1) And most of us are not demanding anything (more like politely asking) The x100s has the hardware to support an updated FW. Even if we will not get any update I'll still use my x100s with a lot of pleasure. Why are you hating so much? Between the x100t and the x100s... The hardware should make the difference, not the hardware.

Exactly! The x100t has superior hardware! There shouldn't be a reason for Fuji to hold back a FW upgrade for the x100s

That's exactly the point. The x100s FW should take full advantage of the hardware. That's the essence of kaizen right? We x100s owners are fully aware of the hardware limitations. the x100t is already superior to the x100s. Most new clients will buy the x100t over the x100s now anyways because of its superior hardware. It just doesn't feel right that owners of the x100s have a camera which isn't the camera it could potentially be.

Thanks for the advice! I've decided to get the 12mm. I can always get the 14mm in the future if I need something narrower and have some extra cash laying around.