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#1 welchre

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 01:04 PM

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On my Fuji x100F my Rear Command Dial is very sensitive. Attempting to scroll within 1 of the 16 slots in the Q Menu to review choices is almost impossible. I can't scroll without inadvertently pressing the dial in (which makes a selection and de-activates the Q-menu).

 
Is anyone else experiencing this? Or is my Rear Command Dial defective?
 
Any help would be appreciated. 


#2 Mike G

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 02:10 PM

Try using the focus lever or the four way buttons to move around the Q options, the rear dial scrolls through the activation options!

Edited by Mike G, 17 April 2017 - 02:13 PM.


#3 welchre

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 03:07 PM

I'm afraid I wasn't clear. I'm not trying to move around between the 16 Q-menu options. I'm trying to use the Rear Command Dial (RCD) to change what's selected within one Q-Menu option (the highlighted one). If I use my thumb on the very right-hand edge of the RCD it sometimes scrolls through the options for the highlighted cell, for example the C-1 to C-7. But most of the time, when using the right-hand edge, I end up pressing the RCD in. 

 

What I'm wondering is if this behavior for the RCD is normal (so easy to press the RCD in to make a selection), or if my particular x100 F has an issue. Thanks.



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Posted 17 April 2017 - 03:33 PM

I've compared this behavior on the x100 F of the Rear Command Dial (RCD) versus the xpro 2. The xpro 2 scrolls easily within the options of the highlighted Q-Menu option without any accidental press of the RCD. It takes a deliberate press of the RCD to make a selection. 



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Posted 17 April 2017 - 04:07 PM

I was using an X-T2 so I may not be much help, sorry!

#6 welchre

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 04:39 PM

Mike, I appreciate your help. I don't have an X-T2, so I can't compare it's behavior to the xpro2 or the x100F. After comparing my xpro2 and the x100F, I think my x100F is a bad copy. I'm now planning on returning it (it's still under the 30 day period) and ordering a new one.

 

I would like to hear from any others with an x100F whether they are having this problem or not. Again, Thanks, Mike.



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 02:14 AM

I just tried it on my X100F.  

 

On the Q menu, it is easy to rotate the rear command dial to the selection.  The first time I tried it I never accidentally pushed the button in.  The second time I pushed it in a couple of times while playing around but realizing it, it was quite easy to avoid and go right to my selection.

 

It is interesting how different features appeal to different people.  I am probably in the minority but I never used the Q menu on my X100s in about 3 years of use and I don't use it now on my X100F.


Edited by neal3K, 18 April 2017 - 02:19 AM.


#8 welchre

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 12:35 PM

neal3K, thanks for responding. Are you talking using the RCD to move between the 16 options displayed or about moving with the choices within 1 of the 16 options?

 

How did you avoid pressing in the RCD ("it was quite easy to avoid and go right to my selection")?

 

Thanks for your help.



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 02:41 PM

Yes, I am using RCD to move between the 16 options.  
After I accidentally pressed the button, I found that if I rest my thumb on the camera and slide rather than just touching the button with my thumb, it works better.



#10 welchre

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 04:19 PM

I understand that you're using the RCD to move between the 16 options. I did try your technique of resting my thumb on the camera body & sliding it across the RCD with somewhat better results, but I still often end up inadvertently making a selection when I only wanted to scroll through the options.

 

In the Q-Menu, for scrolling to the location of 1 of the 16 options, I find the joystick or d-pad to works fine, However, they do not work within a highlighted "cell" to review the options stored there.

 

Do me a favor and try using the RCD within 1 of the 16 options to change what's selected, for example, within the custom settings (C1, C2, C3, etc.). Do you then find you are selecting C5 etc as you scroll through C1 to C7 when you did not intend to?

 

If you would, let me know if you sometimes / frequently make an unintended selection using the RCD within any 1 of the 16 choices. 

 

I'm trying to determine if the behavior of my RCD is normal or if it bad.

 

I've also found that sometimes I have to press my Q-button twice to get the options to display.

 

Thanks, I appreciate the help.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 12:21 AM

I'm glad to help a fellow Fuji fan.  As you suggested, I selected the custom settings and scrolled through C1 through C7 with the RCD.  No problem at all.  It went and stayed wherever I selected without the selector pushing in.

 

As I mentioned, I don't use the Q button but in testing it about a dozen times, it always opens the Q menu the first time.

 

I hope this is helping you decide what to do.



#12 welchre

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:19 PM

Thanks, neal3K, I appreciate your testing the RCD on the your Fuji x100F. I will be returning my copy. Thanks again to you and Mike G.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:55 PM

I am a bit relieved (sorry, I know that's selfish!) to hear about someone else having that issue. When I raised this in another forum I got a lot of weird looks and "you need to be more gentle" types of comments... I'm having the same problem with my X100F that I got in February. RCD is way too sensitive and I keep on depressing it while trying to scroll. No such issue with front wheel. I subsequently tried the demo model in a store and it definitely did not have that problem. I am now waiting for a replacement for mine.

Let us know how your replacement works out for you!




 
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