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#1 OleDK

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:45 PM

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I have been to these forums before, but I have been away for quite some time now. Not because I don't have Fuji cameras and not because I don't appreciate the amount of knowledge gathered here. But because I was tired of the tone in discussions and of the rants.

I am back now. But it seems as if everything is unchanged.

People rant about alleged design errors. People rant about design choices. People rant about things that turn out to be misunderstandings on their part. People rant about things that are ignorance about or misunderstandings of fundamental photographic technique. People rant about production errors in their cameras. People rant about production errors in other peoples' cameras, despite not having bought their own camera yet. People rant about production backlog and delivery times.

What kind of forum do you people really want? Please, everyone, stop ranting.


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#2 quincy

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 11:00 PM

I guess I like you



#3 johant

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 08:49 AM

It's probably because this forum is very much focused on (missing) camera features, being associated with a rumor site.

 

There are other forums where the mood is a lot lighter, and where there are also more photos shown (TBH I mainly display them elsewhere too).

 

I think for this forum to be less "ranting", it should break the association with said rumor site, and maybe become moderated in a different way.


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#4 pete1959

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 11:16 PM

Side notes:

 

If you complain about something not working please have the courtesy to post the solution if and when you discover it, or what you did to get it resolved.

 

If it was operator error, please post it as such, admit you mistake, and stop blaming Fuji.

 

Please don't tell us you have white bars, squiggly lines, autofocus failure, error code XXX, that has been going on since the day you bought your new "Fuji X".

 

Enlighten us and tell us the resolution, and for gosh sakes if it's under warranty and you really believe the camera is broken the return it for repairs.

 

That brings to mine the poster who insisted her camera was broken, refused to try a different lens to determine if it was the camera or then lens, and then chastised me for asking if it was resolved, and in the end never did give the forums the resolution (again indicating operator error).

 

Lastly to all you bleeping trolls, this is a Fuji X Forum, not a "Pentax/Sony/Nikon does it better forum".


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#5 pete1959

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 11:18 PM

oh...and moderators please add an "edit post" button so I can change my; that brings to "mine" to "that brings to mind".



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:54 AM

It is the kaliyuga



#7 Adam Woodhouse

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:39 PM

We need to do a little bit of Kaizen on this forum!  :)


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#8 OleDK

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 05:59 PM

We need to do a little bit of Kaizen on this forum!   :)

Yes and perhaps we need to call out the whiners and the trolls.



#9 elmacus

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 07:35 AM

And stop all "we need ibis or fujifilm will die" trolls.
They probably dont even own a Fujifilm, just trying to scare Custumers to buy a touch & go cam( need no skills cam) (sony).
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#10 Lumens

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 01:53 PM

Bottom line many people just refuse to learn how to use their equipment (they paid a fortune for) so they rant rather than spend the time to learn.  I just ignore them and pull out what knowledge I can.



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 02:34 PM

Truly fascinating topic... please go on...



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 04:02 PM

And stop all "we need ibis or fujifilm will die" trolls.
They probably dont even own a Fujifilm, just trying to scare Custumers to buy a touch & go cam( need no skills cam) (sony).

 

Yeah, I do own Fuji cameras. An X-T1 and an X-T2. Here is a link to my photostream on Flickr.

 

https://www.flickr.c...s/40101411@N05/



#13 johant

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 10:11 AM

Yes and perhaps we need to call out the whiners and the trolls.

 

I agree with that .... but why are you trolling in various topics then? At least, that is how your posts read to me.



#14 OleDK

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:06 PM

I agree with that .... but why are you trolling in various topics then? At least, that is how your posts read to me.

So you think calling out the trollers is trolling? I am about to throw in the towel for good in this forum.


Edited by OleDK, 24 March 2017 - 07:06 PM.


#15 johant

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:09 PM

So you think calling out the trollers is trolling?

The way you did it? Yes, in my opinion.

I do not think that calling out "oh no! the camera is unusable!" adds much to the discussion when the TS raises a valid concern (the X100F not retaining the focus distance when the camera is switched off and on in MF mode), and it was not very useful either in the other discussion where you stated the same.

Edited by johant, 24 March 2017 - 07:14 PM.


#16 OleDK

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:21 PM

The way you did it? Yes, in my opinion.

I do not think that calling out "oh no! the camera is unusable!" adds much to the discussion when the TS raises a valid concern (the X100F not retaining the focus distance when the camera is switched off and on in MF mode), and it was not very useful either in the other discussion where you stated the same.

In all the threads where I called the camera unusable, that conclusion is pure logic if you accept the OPs statements. You may call it sarcastic because I do not necessarily accept the statements. But IF I did, I would have to sell my cameras.

I will quote my original post: "People rant about alleged design errors. People rant about design choices."

 

If people just stated "I am very sorry/angry/whatever about this design choice". But they usually state "Fujifilm are idiots because of this. An I am actually both sorry and angry about that.


 



#17 johant

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:27 PM

Disagree, the TS stated clearly *what* his issue was, and *why* it was an issue for him. And in fact this issue *is* more than a "Fujifilm quirk", I would say. Especially because it worked correctly in the older models, and is a need when relying on the combination of MF and the OVF.

#18 OleDK

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 09:59 PM

OK, you win. I give in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.



#19 johant

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 11:32 PM

OK, you win. I give in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Well sorry, you picked the wrong battle.

Kevin Mullins complains about the same issue. Is he also a troll?

#20 c0ldc0ne

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 11:50 PM

Bugger. The forum is unusable. I will leave!


 
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