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#1 MikeG

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Posted 02 June 2016 - 12:35 PM

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Hi there,

Back in January I went to my favourite camera shop (London Camera Exchange in Plymouth) with the idea of trading in my Sony NEX-5 for an a6000. I also took my old Canon EOS 350 & associated lenses along with a Leica D-Lux3 compact, just to see if I would get a decent part exchange valuation against the proposed new Sony. They gave me a good quote for the old gear, so I was *just* about to seal the deal on the a6000 when I said to the assistant "Is there anything else I should consider as a Sony alternative?" They showed me an Olympus OM D (which was very nice) & then showed me the Fuji X-T10 - Wow! What a brilliant camera. I was immediately knocked out by the build quality & the whole feel & appearance. Needless to say I walked out with the kit with the 18-55 & 55-200 lenses; what a revelation the Fuji system has been - no regrets at all.

 

I have one main question re' processing the Fuji RAW files. At present I have a 9 year old iMac which means I'm restricted to using Lightroom 5.7.1, which can't handle the RAW files natively (I have to convert them to DNG before Lightroom will touch them). I've had a look around online & Iridient Developer seems to be well regarded for handling the X-Trans RAW files; does anyone have experience of Iridient or, come to that, any other RAW processors?

 

Apologies for rambling & if this needs to be posted to a more relevant thread please let me know.

 

Thanks. 



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Posted 02 June 2016 - 02:50 PM

LR 5.7 handles Fuji raw files without any conversion. Mine does anyway.

 

Are you sure you are up to date with Camera raw? 

 

As for Raw processing there are tons of alternatives and if one is only going to be flamed by the people who like other raw processors.

 

If you have an older mac you should have Aperture. Aperture works just fine and now that the NIK suite is free you can add that to the plug ins.


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Posted 02 June 2016 - 06:05 PM

MikeG you appear to have appropriated my forum name "Mike G", this name I have used for many years on several forums, please desist!

Would an administrator please adjudicate!

Edited by Mike G, 02 June 2016 - 06:09 PM.


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Posted 02 June 2016 - 10:56 PM

MikeG you appear to have appropriated my forum name "Mike G", this name I have used for many years on several forums, please desist!

Would an administrator please adjudicate!

You appear to be 'Mike G' (Mike space G); when I registered the system let me have 'MikeG' (no space) therefore not the same name, therefore no appropriation of name, therefore no need for an admin' to adjudicate!



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 08:02 AM

MikeG, don't ya just know this is going to lead to confusion, but hey I appreciate what you say! Please don't take this personally!

Many years ago I used to live in Helston when I was in the Royal Navy, happy days.
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#6 MikeG

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 06:36 PM

MikeG, don't ya just know this is going to lead to confusion, but hey I appreciate what you say! Please don't take this personally!

Many years ago I used to live in Helston when I was in the Royal Navy, happy days.

No problem, Mike! One of those quirks of the system I guess.



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 06:45 PM

Hardly.

 

No system can possibly equate Mike G to MikeG and refuse someone to register the second moniker if the first already exists.

 

I have news.

 

If anyone comes around with the wish to register under Mike   G ( two spaces  in between) the system will create another identity, also mike g (lower case) will be, then another identity.

 

But the avatar of Mike G, I think, is pretty distinctive and I bet that the two of you look pretty different.

 

Happy Days!


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the popular expression wishful thinking is an oxymoron!

 

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#8 Mike G

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 06:58 PM

Milandro(no spaces) and MikeG happy days indeed!

 

Regarding my avatar, since that was taken I have lost 12 kilos due to receiving Chemotherapy, not something I would recommend as a weight loss regime.  :blink:



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 07:04 PM

certainly not.

 

But, looking things in a positive light, now it is time to update your avatar!


the popular expression wishful thinking is an oxymoron!

 

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 07:14 PM

LR 5.7 handles Fuji raw files without any conversion. Mine does anyway.

 

Are you sure you are up to date with Camera raw? 

 

As for Raw processing there are tons of alternatives and if one is only going to be flamed by the people who like other raw processors.

 

If you have an older mac you should have Aperture. Aperture works just fine and now that the NIK suite is free you can add that to the plug ins.

What camera are you using? I think the issue Lightroom 5.7.1 has is specifically to do with the X-T10, not Fuji files in general. This thread on another site seems to suggest that a workaround is to fool LR into thinking it's looking at files from an X-T1 rather than an X-T10 by batch altering the camera type in the EXIF data using an EXIF editor of some sort, which seems to be quite a faff to say to say the least.

 

I assume Camera RAW is up to date, given that I only recently installed LR as part of the Adobe CC package which I got a discount on via subscription to 'Digital Camera' magazine.

 

Again re Aperture, that doesn't want to have anything to do with files from the X-T10 (it imports it, but then says "Unsupported Image Format") & given that Aperture is dead in the water as far as Apple is concerned I've pretty much decided I'll have to give up on it. Having said that, does the 'NIK' suite enable Aperture to read the Fuji files?

 

Obviously the main problem is that my iMac won't update beyond OS 10.7.5. & Lightroom won't update beyond 5.7.1. I'll be upgrading my computer in 6 months or so, so hopefully I won't have these issues once I've done so. 



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 07:16 PM

As I recently took a nose dive into a concrete path, I'll pass on that for the time being, if I was to post my current visage it would scare off most of the members!

Not turning out to be a very good year for me so far, but surely now it can only get better.

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 07:38 PM

I have a X-t1 and a X-E2 with the software updated to the latest version.

 

Both cameras work perfectly with Aperture and with LR.

 

The X-E2 is virtually the same as the X-T10, so much so that, lacking a book including the newest software on this camera, people selling the X-T10 alternative manual recommend X-E2 owners who have updated their camera to the latest system to use the X-T10.

 

Aperture does the “ unsupported format” thing If you try to open several images, whilst ,open one by one, will do it. Mine does. Good Luck!

 

Mike G.

 

You are indeed going through a very rough patch. All the best!


the popular expression wishful thinking is an oxymoron!

 

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Posted 04 June 2016 - 08:05 AM

Thanks Milandro, yep this is turning out the my "Annus Horribilis"

I too have Aperture + Lightroom and have no problems opening Fuji RAFs or JPEGs in either. IMHO the Aperture treatment is slightly better than Lr, sadly Aperture doesn't have the tools that Lr does!

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Posted 04 June 2016 - 08:19 AM

Hopefully it will all pass and you will get better. Unfortunately we all have to deal with the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune at some point in our lives although sometimes one fames more than his fair share.

 

 

 

Using the NIK suite in combination with Aperture gives me a lot of flexibility and actually I am very pleased of the results.

 

LR has incredible archival capabilities and, I think, that that would have been a great tool to have when I was working for the Royal Dutch library where we where handling tons of images which needed being archived.

 

The only thing that I miss is the lens correction.

 

On the other hand we've used all manner of lenses for what they were, without any corrections, throughout the history of photography and learned to work WITH them.


the popular expression wishful thinking is an oxymoron!

 

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 11:25 AM

Aperture does the “ unsupported format” thing If you try to open several images, whilst ,open one by one, will do it. Mine does. Good Luck!

 

 

No luck for me on that; I've tried importing a single RAF file from my X-T10 into Aperture (version 3.4.5, which seems to be the latest version of Aperture that I can run), the file imports BUT I get the "Unsupported Image Format" warning. Weirdly, the 'Info' tab on Aperture displays all the usual data there, but all of the controls on the 'Adjustments' tab are greyed out.

 

It looks like I'm going to have to go down the route of converting my Fuji RAW files to DNG in order to get Lightroom to handle them, with the option of using Iridient Developer or RawTherapee or darktable (or some other RAW converter) for those RAW files which I want to get the absolute best out of.

 

Any alternative suggestions gratefully considered! 


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 11:32 AM

well, altering ( changing to X-T1) or removing the EXIF will probably do the trick.


the popular expression wishful thinking is an oxymoron!

 

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 10:06 AM

Shouldn't be a problem to change MikeG to something more remote from Mike G. I would happily comply to such a request from an older member. Good luck Mike and I wish you a turn for the better.


Edited by George, 06 June 2016 - 10:07 AM.

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 10:11 AM

I think that they already found their respective peace in accepting that there would always be more than one Mike G, MIke   G,  Mike g, mike G, mike g, and so forth.


the popular expression wishful thinking is an oxymoron!

 

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 10:18 AM

While a chance to do something nice was missed.


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Posted 06 June 2016 - 10:20 AM

like when someone who is called George will register himself as george?

 

How about George II? Very kingly.


Edited by milandro, 06 June 2016 - 10:24 AM.

the popular expression wishful thinking is an oxymoron!

 

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