Erratic behaviour after upgrade to FW 4.0

[OlafurTh]

I upgraded my X-E2 from FW 3.01 (whatever the last release was) to FW 4.0 a couple weeks ago. Since then the camera has started behaving strangely like the following

#1 Pressing Q does sometimes not open the Quick menu

#2 If the Quick menu opens I can sometimes not change settings there

#3 After upgrading all the Fn buttons had forgotten their settings. I set them again but now they sometimes don't work

#4, Connection to the Android app has stopped working. It was bad before but completely useless now

#5 ... lots of minor quirkyness while selecting various settings that I assumed were my mistakes and ignored to begin with.

 

Has anyone had similar problems?

Ólafur

 

[milandro]

no, but you are not the only one mentioning odd behavior so, try reload the software again. It might fix the bugs if it doesn’t than the only other possibility is to wait for another upgrade (which might never come) which would fix the bugs or bring it in for service ( they can do things that you cannot do with the software).

[magnesi]

Have you tried resetting the camera? I've found that on a previous upgrade some of the issues I had disappeared after resetting.

 

 

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[yukosteel]

Good hint, tried to see if it helps to improve turn-on performance.

 

Unfortunately reset doesn't help in this case, camera still takes extra few seconds to read flash card and calculate remaining space. During that you can not press any Fn, Q, or focus assist button - no, you need to wait 2 seconds first. That is probably most annoying thing for me in X-E2.

 

BTW, interesting observation, all C1-C7 settings can not be reset, they remain same. It's quite useful, so I don't need to setup all 21 AUTO ISO settings again.

[milandro]

sometimes I have the felling that I live in a parallel universe, nothing as such happens with me.

[yukosteel]

sometimes I have the felling that I live in a parallel universe, nothing as such happens with me.

 

Interesting. I'm wondered if there is any setting missed to tweak. This "card calculation" delay is most noticeable difference for me comparing to X-T1.

 

Steps to reproduce that delay on X-E2:

1. Set POWER MANAGEMENT > HIGH PERFORMANCE = OFF

2. Switch LCD mode to display "INFO"

3. Turn off the camera

4. Wait for 5 minutes (if you had High Performance ON before, otherwise wait for 30 seconds only)

5. Turn on the camera, and observe:

   5.1 switch clicks

   5.2 LCD blinks

   5.3 LCD shows shooting information on black background, without "recording time/remaining shots" numbers

   5.4 LCD also shows "recording time/remaining shots"

 

6. Press "MENU OK" button (or any Fn, Q) on sub-step 5.3

 

ISSUE: buttons will not react until camera calculates and "recording time/remaining shots" is shown. (for me it takes 1 second)

If you remove card from camera, and repeat steps - "no card" warning will be shown on step 5.3, but buttons will work immediately

 

WORKAROUND:

Set POWER MANAGEMENT > HIGH PERFORMANCE = ON

 

In this mode substeps 5.1-5.4 behaves slow only on first turn-on.

For next turn-on steps 5.1-5.4 run fast, and buttons are not blocked on step 5.3.

If camera is OFF for more than 20 minutes, then first turn-on will also be slow.

 

NOTE: I use quite fast SDHC Class 10 cards of relatively small size. E.g. 16Gb SanDisk Extreme Pro 95Mb/s

 

NOTE2: Manual lens is used on camera, so no additional delays of XF lens in this test.

Edited March 30, 2016 by yukosteel

[milandro]

I don’t have an answer to any of that.

 

My camera works as supposed to

 

As I said before, the first time that I’ve upgraded I observed some not so normal thing, then I repeated the process and from then I never had any malfunction that was of my own doing.

[yukosteel]

It would be helpful if anyone can try to repeat described steps and say if other X-E2 behaves the same way.

 

I don't think it's wrong behavior, rather normal performance difference. That delay is annoying, but I can live with that, I still like X-E2 more than X-T1.

 

It's the only case I know when buttons really don't react. Fortunately it's rare case when Performance Mode is ON, and delay lasts for only 1 second.

[milandro]

I only ever have high performance on.

 

I don’t experience any of these problems and really don’t understand the fuss. Putting the high performance on make a lot of things better.

[yukosteel]

Yes, it's better with High Performance, I also switched it ON after noticed this delay.

 

I think it influences just particular shutting cases, like when you want to catch something fast and camera was OFF for more then 20 minutes.

So I'm turning it on and look into EVF, press focus assist to precisely focus (here 1 second delay appears), and make a shot.

That's the only situation where that 1 second makes a change for me. With X-T1 I didn't have that delay.

 

One good thing about X-E2, it is still taking a shot before that "space calculation" delay, so at least shutter button is never blocked : )

When I set right DOF and prefocus, I just turn on the camera and make a shot without using Fn or Focus Assist.

[Col_photography]

Our of interest what card are you using in the camera?

[milandro]

32G class 10 Maginon micro SD with adapter

[yukosteel]

Our of interest what card are you using in the camera?

 

I observe this Cold Start lag with quite fast card: 16Gb Class 10 SanDisk Extreme Pro UHS-1 95Mb/s .

 

Hot Start lag is usually just a bit shorter that 1 second - when High Performance is ON, and camera was ON recently (in a 20 minutes time range).

 

On my X-E2 sample it's easy to reproduce Cold Start lag by just removing battery for 5 seconds, and then tuning it on. It takes 3 seconds even in HP mode.

Or it takes 2 seconds if NO card is inserted.