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#221 Woodworth

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 10:47 AM

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I have to say that despite all the hugely negative things comments I have made about the X-E3, I will probably get one. I hate myself for doing this :angry: , it's hugely hypocritical and I may well end up returning it immediately, but I have to give it a go. A bit like making children eat things they don't like a few times, I may well end up loving it  :wub:  ! Who knows? 

I've kind of got over my initial disappointment and am trying to like it.


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 10:57 AM



I have to say that despite all the hugely negative things comments I have made about the X-E3, I will probably get one. I hate myself for doing this :angry: , it's hugely hypocritical and I may well end up returning it immediately, but I have to give it a go.


I will not. I really hate touch screens (like on screen keyboards, for instance), and being a left eye shooter with glasses probably makes it worse.

My first upgrade is likely going to be when Fujifilm release a X100 model with proper WR.

OTOH, I could very well see my wife wanting a X-E3, to use with the 27mm. She prefers to use the camera in "auto" mode most of the time anyway.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 03:29 PM

"OTOH, I could very well see my wife wanting a X-E3, to use with the 27mm. She prefers to use the camera in "auto" mode most of the time anyway."

 

It is kind of like an X100 with interchangeable lenses really.

 

I think from what I've read that it may be possible to operate it without using the touch screen as the joy stick can be used to navigate the menu, if this is the case I will just switch off the touch screen and use it the old fashioned way. This way I think I can get on with it.

 

If Fuji were to make a slimmed down X-Pro2 without the optical finder but with a tilt-able screen and IBIS, I would be overjoyed!


Edited by Woodworth, 09 September 2017 - 03:29 PM.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 05:39 PM

I think from what I've read that it may be possible to operate it without using the touch screen as the joy stick can be used to navigate the menu

 

But what is gonna move the focus point then?

 

I don't think it's wrong at all to try it if you can return it easily, I'd do it too. And only stupid people never change their mind.

 

Please report about those specific "problems" we are all talking about regarding ergonomics, if you can act as if you're left-eyed to see how it plays it would be awesome too.


Edited by citral, 09 September 2017 - 05:43 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:01 PM

It's not only possible (obviously), touchscreen doesn't even work in the menu's (yet)

 

https://youtu.be/_UU8L_yUKTs?t=14m20s



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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:15 PM

flysurfer,

 

(1) I didn't know it has a color histogram, that's nice!

 

(2) How many 27mm pancakes do you have?

 

 

Only two, all pre-production, but good enough for my modest requirements.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:17 PM

All my three German X-E3 articles are now online:

 

https://fuji-x-secre...neue-af-system/

 

https://fuji-x-secre...x-e2s-vs-x-t20/

 

https://fuji-x-secre...-e3-pro-contra/


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Posted 17 September 2017 - 06:21 PM

It's simple for me - and I do not need to read Rico Pfirstinger review or other Fuji "guys" reviews to know the X-E3 value for me - it's low.

Shoting mostly with VF I can't accept X-E2 successor that has only x0.62 magnification - even smaller then X-E2! I expected X-E3 at least with x.0.70 as Sony A6300/6500 has, or around it, but not that tiny EVF taken from X-30. So, this and same terrible small, narrow, a "point-and-shot' style eyepiece without eye cup, it's enough reason to give up X-E3.

 

But there are 2 more ones that I haven't expected:

 

2). Lack of D-pad with Fn buttons that are very important for direct and fast access to set features. Touched LCD will sloooooooooooooooooow it!

 

3). Lack of tilt LCD in 2018. It's a falt.

Tilt LCD is very useful in that many street/reportage situations where you need to be as descret as possible. I really hoped for it. I found it lack in any Fuji cam with corner EVF as big mistake.  

 

X-E3 is aimed for people who love to play and shot with LCD and do not count the time. Not for me.

I am waiting for Nikon FF mirrorless now and also for A6500 successor that may have two more command dials - it has many Fn buttons, tilt LCD, larger x-0.70 EVF, well placed AF-L button for back AF and new 16/1.4 is expecting from Sony. We will see.

 

I'd be interested to know just how many people like the X-E3. I don't know how to set up a poll (even though I don't think Fuji will pay attention to it!), but I'd like to see who actually wants to buy the X-E3 versus those who will choose to stick to the existing X-E camera or buy something else.

 

There has been a lot of very vocal negativism, from me and many others as the X-E3 seems to be morphing into a smartphone and away from being a serious camera. I'd have been quite happier if they had chose to introduce it as an X-A camera with an EVF instead and given us an upgraded X-E2s with the new sensor, focus, joystick, IBIS and articulated screen - then we could all have been happy.  In essence, it's too small and too gimmicky.

 

To be positive, I welcome the sensor, the improved AF, the joystick and even the top plate re-design but that's where it ends. To sum up my wish-list, I'd have liked IBIS, an articulated screen and similar controls to the X-E2s.


Edited by renes, 17 September 2017 - 06:50 PM.


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 02:14 AM

After a few weeks of contemplation, I have decided to replace my X-T20 with the new X-E3 as my travel system camera. While I miss the tilting screen of the T20, I prefer the speed and convenience of the E3's focus stick. All things considered, I'm faster with it, and I'm used to working with it from my X-Pro2, X-T2, X100F and GFX 50S. Unlike the tilt screen, the stick it something I use with pretty much every shot, so I benefit from it all the time. 

 

I also like the superior firmware of the E3, because it includes all those improvements from the two recent X-T2 firmware updates, such as an AF ALL mode, a super-small AF frame, putting ISO on a command dial, up to 15 minutes of T exposure time, separate Shutter-AE/AF settings for AF-S and AF-C, etc. etc.

 

Finally, there are the color histogram with live overexposure warning blinkies that I use all the time in my GFX, and the much faster/better AF tracking algo (which will only come to the T2 in November and who knows when to the T20). Price is identical with the X-T20, so the E3 it is. 


Edited by flysurfer, 18 September 2017 - 02:15 AM.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:24 PM

https://www.thephobl...-intuitive-use/

This is a very shocking outcome, nobody could see it coming /o\

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 09:47 AM

https://www.thephobl...-intuitive-use/

This is a very shocking outcome, nobody could see it coming /o\

 

I used the touch on teh X-E3 yesterday... worked perfectly every single time. No idea why thephoblographer didn't to get it work.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:20 AM

As I understand it you need to make quite deliberate actions to use the touch screen and compared to something like a phone perhaps it doesn't work quite as expected?


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 08:35 AM

It's idiot-proof. Even I can use it.


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 07:59 PM

Finally have the X-E3 on order.
Lots of great systems on the market, I almost bought the Sigma Quattro H instead (Amazing details for 1/3 the cost of a 5Ds), but the X-E3 is legitimately one of the best cameras on the market, bar none, especially for the cost.
Ironically it might be a while before I get a Fuji Lens. The Samyang 12mm f2 and Mitakon 35f0.95 will probably fill 99% of my needs for a while, and of course I can adapt my existing Canon mount lenses.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 06:55 AM

Finally have the X-E3 on order.
Lots of great systems on the market, I almost bought the Sigma Quattro H instead (Amazing details for 1/3 the cost of a 5Ds), but the X-E3 is legitimately one of the best cameras on the market, bar none, especially for the cost.
Ironically it might be a while before I get a Fuji Lens. The Samyang 12mm f2 and Mitakon 35f0.95 will probably fill 99% of my needs for a while, and of course I can adapt my existing Canon mount lenses.

 

Good to hear that you're getting one, I imagine you'll take some great pictures with it. I've somewhat tempered my views with the benefit of time. I was bitterly disappointed with the X-E3 initially because it had not lived up to my expectations, however that does not make it a bad camera. I got an X-Pro2 instead and am enjoying using that for now. I'd still like to see an X-E camera with IBIS and a tilt-able screen, in style perhaps a kind of smaller X-Pro2 without the optical finder but that is either a pipe dream or a future Fuji - who knows?


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Posted 22 October 2017 - 12:43 PM

I used the touch on teh X-E3 yesterday... worked perfectly every single time. No idea why thephoblographer didn't to get it work.

 

Because he didn't read the manual :P He's trying to swipe slowly




 
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