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#41 MrPixel

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 05:24 PM

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Improve the black out time in the EVF between shots Fuji .   Take the shot and get back to showing me what's happening as fast as a DSLR.    This is a MUST fix for X-T2.


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 11:31 AM

Is X-T2 actually coming out in 2016?

As per Fujifilm Turkey in Ankara there is no such plan. At least they have never had any info from Japan!


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 11:33 AM

well this information could mean many things.

 

1) 2016 won’t be the year of new release

 

2) the news hasn’t arrived to Turkey yet


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 03:55 PM

At least they have never had any info from Japan!

 

Sounds like a good strategy of Fuji Japan not to tell them anything, seeing how enthusiastically Fujifilm Turkey seems to spread such information.


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Posted 11 January 2016 - 05:04 PM

Fuji X-T2 coming in June (SRP) http://www.fujirumor...-series-camera/



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Posted 15 January 2016 - 06:10 PM

Dear Mr. Fuji, could you give us XT-2 as great as X-pro2, but cheaper! This June if it's possible.... Please!!!



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Posted 15 January 2016 - 06:29 PM

that will be :rolleyes: X-T20... some time in the future


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 06:50 PM

Right! And we need updated roadmap with all X-T20 and 33F1 on schedule...



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Posted 15 January 2016 - 06:52 PM

the road ahead...


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Posted 16 January 2016 - 02:33 PM

Dual SD cards would be useful, I would prefer them both the fastest revision available at time of release. (who wouldn't?)

 

However, taking RAW files on one card and JPEGS on the other would be great for events, when you need to get shots onto a projector or screen quickly and want to continue shooting.

 

Currently I have 2 options wifi the jpegs to a tablet (which means I can not take photos during this period) or swap out the SD card, but then whoever is working the screens, has to filter through jpegs and raw files, and if they screw up I have lost all the files.

 

On the X-Pro2, and hopefully XT-2 (probably little chance of 2 SD card slots making their way into XT-20), if they screw up, I lose the JPEGS only.,


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Posted 16 January 2016 - 08:11 PM

Fuji has been hinting strongly and publicly at the X-T2 showing up with the new sensor - comments like "the sensor and processor can handle 4k video, but that wasn't right for the X-Pro 2 - that's another camera".  The new X-Processor Pro in the X-Pro 2 hints at something else, too (and Fuji's pretty much said as much) - you don't need that kind of processor speed in an image quality focused RANGEFINDER??? I haven't been able to find the processor speed (either in megahertz and core type or in megapixels/second) for any camera other than Fuji's new X-Processor Pro (and the old one by reference in the description of the new one), but it seems to be in the range of at least a Nikon D4s/Canon 1Dx class processor, if not closer to the D5...The only reason for that speed that I can see is that it is shared with another project, one where it makes sense.. I can only see three possible cameras that could need a processor like that (an X-T2 that competes only against the D7200/ EOS7D mkII class doesn't need it).

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1.) A "Top Pro" class DSLR (or in Fuji's case, the first attempt to put a mirrorless camera in that range)!

2.) A movie camera, or a true hybrid (GH4 or A7s type camera)!

3.) A medium format camera (this isn't the X-T2, but it may ALSO be sitting on Fuji's "interesting ideas" shelf, if not already in "interesting prototypes").

 

If I worked for Fuji, I'd be aiming at a combination of 1. and 2. above - the Nikon I'd be aiming at is the D500, not the D7200, and I'd add GH4 class or better video capabilities.

 

I'm guessing here, but here's my version of the X-T2...

 

X-Pro 2 sensor and processor

Leica SL viewfinder (or something similar)

Increased emphasis on video, since it no longer has to be the flagship still camera (I'd expect a LOT of video modes and options, some of them 4K, with GH4 level or better maximum data rates). At least 100 Mbps maximum data rate in 1080p and 4K, 200 Mbps certainly possible.

MAYBE an innovative codec in addition to H.264 (we've just begun to see native ProRes in a few cameras)

12 FPS with full autofocus (it could be either 10 or 14 (or more - the processor, astoundingly, would allow 20 FPS - see my comment on "what's this thing doing in a rangefinder" above), but I'd split the difference among likely frame rates and say 12.

Dual card slots, either SD/SD or maybe SD/XQD if they need XQD for some of the video data rates, or for an absurd frame rate

Modified X-T1 body (if the ISO dial in the X-Pro 2 works out, it may migrate to the X-T2, leaving the left side dial for drive modes and perhaps metering modes)...

Accessory grip with some additional video-focused connectors and the ability to take either multiple (3? one in the camera PLUS two in the grip ) NP-W 126s or a bigger battery

Weathersealing at least at, perhaps above the X-T1/X-Pro 2 level.

$1999

 

And the X-T20 (or more likely it'll be the X-T7 or some other in between number),using the 24 MP sensor, but perhaps a cut down, single core version of the processor.

Existing X-T1 viewfinder

Good (but not absurdly good) video - think 50 Mbps 4K and 1080p, H.264 only. This video will probably find its way to the X-Pro 2 with a little Kaizen firmware, which Fuji's even hinted at (the X-T2 video probably won't)

8 FPS

Single SD slot

Basically an X-T1 with the new sensor and a nice little video tweak.

$1199.

 

The X-T10 will stay a while, dropping to around $799 and giving an entry level  choice between rangefinder and DSLR styling.- it's a similar camera to the X-E2s in a different style.

 

I guessed at a split upgrade for a number of reasons having to do with Fuji engineer comments AND the power of the processor. Fuji engineers consistently mention a "multimedia camera", and the X-T1 really isn't one. It's a high performance still camera, but its video mode isn't even great for a midrange DSLR, let alone in the range of the mirrorless hybrids. That suggests the upgrade will have something distinctly new in that regard... The X-Processor Pro can handle a multimedia camera, and why build it for anything else (half of it would be perfectly sufficient for the X-Pro 2, or for a "vanilla" X-T2)? Fuji is small enough that they share a lot of parts between models, and that could explain the absurdly overpowered processor in the X-Pro 2.

 

If I had to guess on timing, I'd say Photokina, with pre-holiday availability? It's a bit tricky, because Fuji'd want to hit Photokina with the pro camera (not have it already out 3-4 months, and have the cut-down version be the Photokina introduction). On the other hand, the cheaper camera is going to be the holiday seller...

 

Maybe they'll slip the X-T2 out for the Olympics (Maybe with a great new telephoto prime - how about a 200mm f2.4 which becomes a 280mm f3.5 with the 1.4x AND a 400 mm f4.8 with a 2x converter)? A 200mm f2 does even more interesting things with converters, but that's a HUGE lens (5 lbs or more), and it's over $5000 (of course, so's everyone else's fast sports telephoto)... Given Fuji's sensor size, a 200 mm f2 is equivalent to a 300 mm f2 on full frame, then it can convert to a 400 mm f2.8 equivalent AND a 600 mm f4 equivalent. I haven't heard ANYTHING about a long, fast prime, but it's what a body like that would need to add to the present lens lineup...


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Posted 16 January 2016 - 09:57 PM

I'd be interested in your X-T20 (X-T7) version.   :D

 

I'm going to be new to Fuji and don't care about video features (it's a must have as it's my only camera, but it will be used so infrequently that it just needs to be "good enough"...so no 4K like others seem to want).  At this point and based on the X-Pro2 specs, I'd either go with what you are proposing or simply an X-T1 (save some money now, get a few lenses, and then wait for the next gen X-series).



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Posted 17 January 2016 - 11:18 AM

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could be quite an interesting year.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 01:57 PM

Reading about the Xpro2 it stated that the sensor could do 4K video. So I hope they enable it in the XT2.

I used to think 4K was a nonsense, but the ability to crop in and remain a full HD output is useful for interviews etc.

I know for many video isn't important, but not having 'good enough' video may put off some which will reduce market share which means less money for Fuji to invest in the product line. It would be a terrible shame if Fuji went the way of Samsung, withdrawing from the UK Mkt.

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:37 PM

Fuji has been hinting strongly and publicly at the X-T2 showing up with the new sensor - comments like "the sensor and processor can handle 4k video, but that wasn't right for the X-Pro 2 - that's another camera".  The new X-Processor Pro in the X-Pro 2 hints at something else, too (and Fuji's pretty much said as much) - you don't need that kind of processor speed in an image quality focused RANGEFINDER??? I haven't been able to find the processor speed (either in megahertz and core type or in megapixels/second) for any camera other than Fuji's new X-Processor Pro (and the old one by reference in the description of the new one), but it seems to be in the range of at least a Nikon D4s/Canon 1Dx class processor, if not closer to the D5...The only reason for that speed that I can see is that it is shared with another project, one where it makes sense.. I can only see three possible cameras that could need a processor like that (an X-T2 that competes only against the D7200/ EOS7D mkII class doesn't need it).

:

1.) A "Top Pro" class DSLR (or in Fuji's case, the first attempt to put a mirrorless camera in that range)!

2.) A movie camera, or a true hybrid (GH4 or A7s type camera)!

3.) A medium format camera (this isn't the X-T2, but it may ALSO be sitting on Fuji's "interesting ideas" shelf, if not already in "interesting prototypes").

 

If I worked for Fuji, I'd be aiming at a combination of 1. and 2. above - the Nikon I'd be aiming at is the D500, not the D7200, and I'd add GH4 class or better video capabilities.

 

I'm guessing here, but here's my version of the X-T2...

 

X-Pro 2 sensor and processor

Leica SL viewfinder (or something similar)

Increased emphasis on video, since it no longer has to be the flagship still camera (I'd expect a LOT of video modes and options, some of them 4K, with GH4 level or better maximum data rates). At least 100 Mbps maximum data rate in 1080p and 4K, 200 Mbps certainly possible.

MAYBE an innovative codec in addition to H.264 (we've just begun to see native ProRes in a few cameras)

12 FPS with full autofocus (it could be either 10 or 14 (or more - the processor, astoundingly, would allow 20 FPS - see my comment on "what's this thing doing in a rangefinder" above), but I'd split the difference among likely frame rates and say 12.

Dual card slots, either SD/SD or maybe SD/XQD if they need XQD for some of the video data rates, or for an absurd frame rate

Modified X-T1 body (if the ISO dial in the X-Pro 2 works out, it may migrate to the X-T2, leaving the left side dial for drive modes and perhaps metering modes)...

Accessory grip with some additional video-focused connectors and the ability to take either multiple (3? one in the camera PLUS two in the grip ) NP-W 126s or a bigger battery

Weathersealing at least at, perhaps above the X-T1/X-Pro 2 level.

$1999

 

And the X-T20 (or more likely it'll be the X-T7 or some other in between number),using the 24 MP sensor, but perhaps a cut down, single core version of the processor.

Existing X-T1 viewfinder

Good (but not absurdly good) video - think 50 Mbps 4K and 1080p, H.264 only. This video will probably find its way to the X-Pro 2 with a little Kaizen firmware, which Fuji's even hinted at (the X-T2 video probably won't)

8 FPS

Single SD slot

Basically an X-T1 with the new sensor and a nice little video tweak.

$1199.

 

The X-T10 will stay a while, dropping to around $799 and giving an entry level  choice between rangefinder and DSLR styling.- it's a similar camera to the X-E2s in a different style.

 

I guessed at a split upgrade for a number of reasons having to do with Fuji engineer comments AND the power of the processor. Fuji engineers consistently mention a "multimedia camera", and the X-T1 really isn't one. It's a high performance still camera, but its video mode isn't even great for a midrange DSLR, let alone in the range of the mirrorless hybrids. That suggests the upgrade will have something distinctly new in that regard... The X-Processor Pro can handle a multimedia camera, and why build it for anything else (half of it would be perfectly sufficient for the X-Pro 2, or for a "vanilla" X-T2)? Fuji is small enough that they share a lot of parts between models, and that could explain the absurdly overpowered processor in the X-Pro 2.

 

If I had to guess on timing, I'd say Photokina, with pre-holiday availability? It's a bit tricky, because Fuji'd want to hit Photokina with the pro camera (not have it already out 3-4 months, and have the cut-down version be the Photokina introduction). On the other hand, the cheaper camera is going to be the holiday seller...

 

Maybe they'll slip the X-T2 out for the Olympics (Maybe with a great new telephoto prime - how about a 200mm f2.4 which becomes a 280mm f3.5 with the 1.4x AND a 400 mm f4.8 with a 2x converter)? A 200mm f2 does even more interesting things with converters, but that's a HUGE lens (5 lbs or more), and it's over $5000 (of course, so's everyone else's fast sports telephoto)... Given Fuji's sensor size, a 200 mm f2 is equivalent to a 300 mm f2 on full frame, then it can convert to a 400 mm f2.8 equivalent AND a 600 mm f4 equivalent. I haven't heard ANYTHING about a long, fast prime, but it's what a body like that would need to add to the present lens lineup...

 

 

This is a very interesting analysis, thank you!

 

I would personally expect the X-T2 to be Fujis answer to D500 and probably the forthcoming E-M1 mk2; i.e. a high performance camera with a definite orientation towards action. This is not to say that it would be less capable in other lines of work, of course, but you get my meaning. 4K is inevitable, in my opinion, but, that said, perhaps a future X-T20 could play the role of a more video-oriented and targeted at enthusiasts camera. Fuji is never going to steal Panasonic's thunder in video, let's be honest.

 

The comment about the Olympics makes sense, although I find it hard to imagine Fuji would invest in a fast super telephoto prime at this point. Nevertheless, the 100-400 seems more than capable in these conditions, and I'm sure we'll see the X-T2+100-400+TC combination in several sports events untill the end of the year.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 08:50 PM

Fuji has been hinting strongly and publicly at the X-T2 showing up with the new sensor - comments like "the sensor and processor can handle 4k video, but that wasn't right for the X-Pro 2 - that's another camera".  The new X-Processor Pro in the X-Pro 2 hints at something else, too (and Fuji's pretty much said as much) - you don't need that kind of processor speed in an image quality focused RANGEFINDER??? I haven't been able to find the processor speed (either in megahertz and core type or in megapixels/second) for any camera other than Fuji's new X-Processor Pro (and the old one by reference in the description of the new one), but it seems to be in the range of at least a Nikon D4s/Canon 1Dx class processor, if not closer to the D5...The only reason for that speed that I can see is that it is shared with another project, one where it makes sense.. I can only see three possible cameras that could need a processor like that (an X-T2 that competes only against the D7200/ EOS7D mkII class doesn't need it).

:

1.) A "Top Pro" class DSLR (or in Fuji's case, the first attempt to put a mirrorless camera in that range)!

2.) A movie camera, or a true hybrid (GH4 or A7s type camera)!

3.) A medium format camera (this isn't the X-T2, but it may ALSO be sitting on Fuji's "interesting ideas" shelf, if not already in "interesting prototypes").

 

If I worked for Fuji, I'd be aiming at a combination of 1. and 2. above - the Nikon I'd be aiming at is the D500, not the D7200, and I'd add GH4 class or better video capabilities.

 

I'm guessing here, but here's my version of the X-T2...

 

X-Pro 2 sensor and processor

Leica SL viewfinder (or something similar)

Increased emphasis on video, since it no longer has to be the flagship still camera (I'd expect a LOT of video modes and options, some of them 4K, with GH4 level or better maximum data rates). At least 100 Mbps maximum data rate in 1080p and 4K, 200 Mbps certainly possible.

MAYBE an innovative codec in addition to H.264 (we've just begun to see native ProRes in a few cameras)

12 FPS with full autofocus (it could be either 10 or 14 (or more - the processor, astoundingly, would allow 20 FPS - see my comment on "what's this thing doing in a rangefinder" above), but I'd split the difference among likely frame rates and say 12.

Dual card slots, either SD/SD or maybe SD/XQD if they need XQD for some of the video data rates, or for an absurd frame rate

Modified X-T1 body (if the ISO dial in the X-Pro 2 works out, it may migrate to the X-T2, leaving the left side dial for drive modes and perhaps metering modes)...

Accessory grip with some additional video-focused connectors and the ability to take either multiple (3? one in the camera PLUS two in the grip ) NP-W 126s or a bigger battery

Weathersealing at least at, perhaps above the X-T1/X-Pro 2 level.

$1999

 

And the X-T20 (or more likely it'll be the X-T7 or some other in between number),using the 24 MP sensor, but perhaps a cut down, single core version of the processor.

Existing X-T1 viewfinder

Good (but not absurdly good) video - think 50 Mbps 4K and 1080p, H.264 only. This video will probably find its way to the X-Pro 2 with a little Kaizen firmware, which Fuji's even hinted at (the X-T2 video probably won't)

8 FPS

Single SD slot

Basically an X-T1 with the new sensor and a nice little video tweak.

$1199.

 

The X-T10 will stay a while, dropping to around $799 and giving an entry level  choice between rangefinder and DSLR styling.- it's a similar camera to the X-E2s in a different style.

 

I guessed at a split upgrade for a number of reasons having to do with Fuji engineer comments AND the power of the processor. Fuji engineers consistently mention a "multimedia camera", and the X-T1 really isn't one. It's a high performance still camera, but its video mode isn't even great for a midrange DSLR, let alone in the range of the mirrorless hybrids. That suggests the upgrade will have something distinctly new in that regard... The X-Processor Pro can handle a multimedia camera, and why build it for anything else (half of it would be perfectly sufficient for the X-Pro 2, or for a "vanilla" X-T2)? Fuji is small enough that they share a lot of parts between models, and that could explain the absurdly overpowered processor in the X-Pro 2.

 

If I had to guess on timing, I'd say Photokina, with pre-holiday availability? It's a bit tricky, because Fuji'd want to hit Photokina with the pro camera (not have it already out 3-4 months, and have the cut-down version be the Photokina introduction). On the other hand, the cheaper camera is going to be the holiday seller...

 

Maybe they'll slip the X-T2 out for the Olympics (Maybe with a great new telephoto prime - how about a 200mm f2.4 which becomes a 280mm f3.5 with the 1.4x AND a 400 mm f4.8 with a 2x converter)? A 200mm f2 does even more interesting things with converters, but that's a HUGE lens (5 lbs or more), and it's over $5000 (of course, so's everyone else's fast sports telephoto)... Given Fuji's sensor size, a 200 mm f2 is equivalent to a 300 mm f2 on full frame, then it can convert to a 400 mm f2.8 equivalent AND a 600 mm f4 equivalent. I haven't heard ANYTHING about a long, fast prime, but it's what a body like that would need to add to the present lens lineup...

 

Dan, great analysis. I think you should start blogging. I'm tired of checking the forum for your posts.  ;)



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Posted 21 January 2016 - 06:23 AM

I absolutely agree that the X-T2 is going to be going after the D500, as EyesUnclouded says... One huge advantage of mirrorless is that, if you've built a high-speed camera, you've more or less got a highly capable video camera as well. Unlike Nikon, whose AF setup at high speeds is the one in the prism (phase detect, NOT on sensor), Fuji's AF is all on-sensor - it has to be, since there's no beamsplitter. Nikon can't get at their primary AF while shooting video, while anything mirrorless CAN. They can (and I  believe will) go for the D500 and GH4 markets with the same body (in a mirrorless camera, you almost get a GH4 for free when building a D500). Of course, you still have to do the codec side of video, but a lot of that is just having a good enough processor and licensing the right codecs. Fuji has the processor, and already pays for H.264 - I don't think you pay more to implement a higher data rate? My version of an X-T2 has high data rates and excellent codecs, but it's still a DSLRish design (I'd expect it to look as much like an X-T1 as an X-Pro2 looks like an X- Pro 1). It has a clean HDMI output, but NOT specialized video connectors like HD-SDI or XLR audio - those connectors are too large, and would compromise its use as a still camera.

I'd expect Panasonic, whose sales are tanking, to move their video focused GH series even farther upmarket, and away from still photography. The X-T2 may (is even likely to) have GH4-level video capability, BUT I'd expect the GH5, which is due around the same time as the X-T2, to have even higher end video codecs (probably native ProRes or similar and maybe raw video), professional sow notion, additional video-focused connectors, and perhaps even to LOOK like a video camera, with a rotating handgrip and a trigger. Time to stop pretending that thing is a still camera - I'm kind of expecting a "baby Cinema EOS" look to the GH5! Panasonic will probably maintain a true hybrid one level below the GH body, but I'd expect the GH to keep moving ever more towards being a dedicated video camera.

 

 

In the $1500--$2000 non full-frame market, we'd have something like (released by Photokina, on the market by Holiday 2016), ignoring stray Leicas and the like:

1.) Fuji X-Pro 2 - "rangefinder" with superb stills, acceptable video, unique interface

2.) Fuji X-T2 - DSLR style with high speed, excellent stills, 4K video with high data rate (but no specialized video interfaces - maybe an "adapter box"),  many dial controls.

3.) Nikon D500 - rugged sports DSLR, trades some image quality for speed, amazing high ISO, 4K video, but limited video functions

4.) Canon 7DmkIII - similar to D500, not QUITE as fast, but some additional video features.

5.) Panasonic GH5 - "baby Cinema camera" - yes, you can use this thing for 16 MP stills, but you can take a pickup truck to LeMans or use a Ferrari to buy groceries, too! Dedicated video form factor and connectors.

 

Possibilities:

1.)Sony A6100 or A7000. If they mean to price it above $1500, they'd better introduce some lenses, too :) Probably has a 36MP sensor, good to excellent video features and a really lousy 16-50 power zoom kit lens!

*From some of the interviews we saw with Fuji executives(they were asked "did you consider going over 24 MP", and replied "We found the best image quality at 24 MP", NOT "what sensor could we have used over 24 MP?", they experimented with some high pixel count sensor and weren't satisfied. Of course, that could have just been the known Samsung 28 MP sensor, which I'm sure is for sale, but I think they probably had samples of the Sony 36 MP unit, and CHOSE the 24 MP model...

2.) Canon or Nikon upper-end mirrorless body (if it's in this price range, it's more likely than not to be full-frame)

3.) Olympus E-M1 mkII. I don't know WHAT body they could dress that old sensor (or even the 20 MP variant) up in that would get the price over $1000, but that doesn't mean they won't try. I'd be surprised to see it touch $1500, but I guess it could.

 

On a different side of Fuji's system, does anyone know much about the new flash? My guess is that it's a Fuji rebrand of some new Sunpak that's not on the market yet, but that's a guess.


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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:45 AM

 

 

In the $1500--$2000 non full-frame market, we'd have something like (released by Photokina, on the market by Holiday 2016), ignoring stray Leicas and the like:

1.) Fuji X-Pro 2 - "rangefinder" with superb stills, acceptable video, unique interface

2.) Fuji X-T2 - DSLR style with high speed, excellent stills, 4K video with high data rate (but no specialized video interfaces - maybe an "adapter box"),  many dial controls.

3.) Nikon D500 - rugged sports DSLR, trades some image quality for speed, amazing high ISO, 4K video, but limited video functions

4.) Canon 7DmkIII - similar to D500, not QUITE as fast, but some additional video features.

5.) Panasonic GH5 - "baby Cinema camera" - yes, you can use this thing for 16 MP stills, but you can take a pickup truck to LeMans or use a Ferrari to buy groceries, too! Dedicated video form factor and connectors.

 

 

Dan, I think one of the biggest selling points (pertaining to video) for the XT-2 will be the ability for existing Fuji users to use their lenses. At least that's how I see it. I'm picking up an X-Pro 2 when available. Sure, I could get a uses GH4 or GH3 for dedicated video, but I'd much rather stay within my system and make investments in lenses. That said, I'm not shoot video professionally so, I'm not expecting a full video package out of the XT-2 and that's ok. 



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Posted 21 January 2016 - 10:49 AM

I absolutely agree that the X-T2 is going to be going after the D500, as EyesUnclouded says... One huge advantage of mirrorless is that, if you've built a high-speed camera, you've more or less got a highly capable video camera as well. Unlike Nikon, whose AF setup at high speeds is the one in the prism (phase detect, NOT on sensor), Fuji's AF is all on-sensor - it has to be, since there's no beamsplitter. Nikon can't get at their primary AF while shooting video, while anything mirrorless CAN. They can (and I  believe will) go for the D500 and GH4 markets with the same body (in a mirrorless camera, you almost get a GH4 for free when building a D500). Of course, you still have to do the codec side of video, but a lot of that is just having a good enough processor and licensing the right codecs. Fuji has the processor, and already pays for H.264 - I don't think you pay more to implement a higher data rate? My version of an X-T2 has high data rates and excellent codecs, but it's still a DSLRish design (I'd expect it to look as much like an X-T1 as an X-Pro2 looks like an X- Pro 1). It has a clean HDMI output, but NOT specialized video connectors like HD-SDI or XLR audio - those connectors are too large, and would compromise its use as a still camera.

I'd expect Panasonic, whose sales are tanking, to move their video focused GH series even farther upmarket, and away from still photography. The X-T2 may (is even likely to) have GH4-level video capability, BUT I'd expect the GH5, which is due around the same time as the X-T2, to have even higher end video codecs (probably native ProRes or similar and maybe raw video), professional sow notion, additional video-focused connectors, and perhaps even to LOOK like a video camera, with a rotating handgrip and a trigger. Time to stop pretending that thing is a still camera - I'm kind of expecting a "baby Cinema EOS" look to the GH5! Panasonic will probably maintain a true hybrid one level below the GH body, but I'd expect the GH to keep moving ever more towards being a dedicated video camera.

 

 

 

In regards to the extra connections, a great way to do it is to introduce a specialized "grip" add-on, similar to the one for the GH-4, incorporating extra connections, perhaps storage, batteries, etc. That way most of the video-centric features for advanced users shall stay out of the way of still shooters as well as casual video-users.

 

As far as Panasonic is concerned, they have already stated they are going for 8K by 2018. That will inevitably mean a larger sensor, since pixel density in a m43 sensor will be prohibitive. I'm thinking Panasonic is going to go for full frame or APS-H (see RED) sensors in the future, and perhaps is already working in such a direction.



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Posted 21 January 2016 - 12:58 PM

Honestly, it might be a bit too late for the X-T2 to go after the D500.

 

If the rumors hold true, the announcement will be in somewhere early Q3, while the D500 pretty much came out of nowhere, it was not expected at all and I don't think anyone saw Nikon coming with a new king of the hill on APS-C format.

 

At this point Fuji is almost done on the X-T2 specs on development is already looking for the manufacturing deals. Unless they feel confident enough in the X-T2 changing plans now in response to the D500 is going to cost them some major issues. 

The X-Pro2 is not threatened as it doesn't targe the same audience. But the X-T2 could very well be outclassed by the D500 even almost 6 later in release.

 

Fuji ideology has always been image quality in stills and it backed up by their own craftsmanship in lenses.




 
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